As per US intervention, I'll say the same thing I said in 1999: You can't bomb your way to peace.

At some point the cycle of violence has to end. People have to realize that living in peace is hugely more valuable to themselves and their families than is a continued cycle of violence.

Sure, the wounds of war hurt, but eventually one has to accept that there are lots of people on the other side who have been hurt too, and that in the long run we're all in it together.

Oh, you can. It worked pretty effectively in Japan in 1945.

It helps if you're actually bombing the people who are causing the trouble, though, as opposed to make-up artists in television studios and Chinese embassies...

Nah, the bomb didn't wory them too much. The Japanese High Command knew it would take maybe another fifteen of them to seriously hurt production of material and they also knew the US just didn't have the capacity to make that many of them at the time (separation of uranium isotopes was done by centrifuging highly dangerous uranium hexafluoride).
What made them surrender was the USSR declaring war on them the same day. They knew what life would be like for them under the Russians, who were effectively on their doorstep and were gagging to square the defeat in their last war, so the civilian government decided to surrender to the US to get protection from the USSR and grab handfuls of that lovely rebuilding cash Uncle Sam was sloshing about.

[quote=Dougal's Breakfast;178593]Oh, you can. It worked pretty effectively in Japan in 1945.quote]
But they haven`t really had much peace since then now have they.

[quote=I-b-deborah;178767] yeah - Japan and Germany are prime examples of how bad it is to be bombed into peace...

Kosovo declaration of independence declared " Not illegal " says the beep.

It was NOT Kosovo, it was Serbia who wanted to see the matter in court. They believe that if you want to get out of a particular country you need the approval of the majority of the country in question. By that criteria, Switzerland --- lacking the approval of the German Empire, and the USA --- lacking the approval of Great Britain .... both would not be existing.

Now, the number of countries fully recognising Kosovo will rise from the present 69 farther upward. And of course, some defacto existing countries now will use the legal precedent to push their matters forward.

Sometimes I cannot believe that you cannot see what is happening.
You need to visit the UK.
We have the Sumalians; Albanians; Afgans/Pakistanis; Turks and they are responsible for drug dealing and mafis style control in their areas . Oh and coincidently they are all Muslim.

Also; I suppose that you would think it was correct that Bradford in the UK suddenly (when Muslim population become majority) declared itself an independent state because the majority of people living their want that. I don't see Serbia/Kosovo being any different.

You are doing copmlet a wrong compare at first , We (albanians) were there where the Slavs came and occupied our lands, I will not go much back in history but to show that Kosovo was occupay by Serbs(Yougoslavia ) after Second World War , and during the war in Bosnia and Croatia was colonization with serb refugees fleeing from the war in Croatia and Bosnia, the Serbs since 1991 began preparing the terrain by removing all albaniens from their work places and employment of Serb refugees, the closure of schools in the Albanian languages etc etc etc and in the end 1999 the US and NATO stopt another genocid like the one in Bosnia
Albanians are 95% and were always so, and so will be like that , everyone is free to come and live in Kosovo , except the ones who killd children , womens , and old peopel .More than 12.000 peopel were killd in Kosovo and more than 3 000 are still missing durin 3 months of war .
If you really want to know more about Kosovo fell free to contact me, I,m a Kosovar by the way , and I was there up to 2008

Chuckle. From Wiki's City of Bradford:

But of course, it's always Bradford that is quoted...

The situation in the UK is completely different and irrelevant.
This isn't to say that there isn't a problem there. There clearly is.

Hitchens sums it up nicely