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Only one way to get rid of the caste system, education, education, education, give five, ten generations of education and it will be history, don't worry.
Three generations if done properly and with a desire to remove the caste system.

But that's not going to happen, is it?
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But as Sankbhat said, it is slowly disappearing.

I'm not sure education is the answer though.

It's the educated ones who should know how unjust it is already. The Dalits would be happy for a change tomorrow.
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Only one way to get rid of the caste system, education, education, education, give five, ten generations of education and it will be history, don't worry.
Many very educated people don't want it to disappear.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

...back to MANGALYAAN - the Mars mission:

According to rough estimates, every rupee invested in space programme gives a return of Rs.3.6. Do not look at Mars Mission, look at our space programme, of which this is just a part. India's space programme has made it self-sufficient in launching satellites, saving a lot of dollars. The 1999 cyclone cost Odisha 10,000 lives and thousands of crores in property. This time, our weather satellites gave us accurate data and we could minimise deaths. We need satellites for communication and broadcast and if we buy the services, we would end up paying more and owning nothing.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

Well done India ...way to go...superpower in making...
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Re: India's mission to Mars

I'm not too sure about the 'super-power' part .... unless you are comparing with the USA, emulating whom we too have 'outsourced' large parts of small manufacturing to China ;-)
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Re: India's mission to Mars

Maybe this is the Super-power !



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Re: India's mission to Mars

Oh and BTW, talking of Mars ('Mangal' in Hindi), it is considered one of the more powerful planets in Vedic Astrology. It represents, valor, anger, fire, and all things 'male' !!

... and before all the legends / veterans / mods jump onto me for going OT, what, may I ask, was going on since the last three pages? Mods dozed off? I am discussing Mars - the destination of the mission in question.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

Asking India to not invest in space technology is asking a poor man to not study because food is important. This way poor will always remain poor and rich will milk him.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

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I can draw on over 50 years experience in aid projects so know how it works very well. I have however only come across very few projects that operate in the manner you describe. Who was the aid agency UNDB, WB, EU?

The tech specs for equipment are generic, they are not to stipulate point of origin or brand names.
I was speaking of bilateral aid agencies (government to government) such as DfID (UK), USAID and so on. These organisations have worked in this manner.

Admittedly I do not have 50 years of experience but I would not refer to the WB or UNDP as Western aid agencies.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

The sudden silence from the legends / veterans / mods is deafening.
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Asking India to not invest in space technology is asking a poor man to not study because food is important. This way poor will always remain poor and rich will milk him.
Who said India is poor ...don't watch too many BBC documentaries which shows only 1% of the truth.....
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The sudden silence from the legends / veterans / mods is deafening.
They're all in awe.

I actually think it's a good effort from India.

But I can't help wondering whether the rocket had "Horn Please!! written on the back.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

For the life of me I can't find anything wrong with a Indian mission to mars or any other rock in the solar system that floats India's boat, pro's and con's whatever, perhaps the pro's have it.
It's India's nig Nukes that rile me, the Pakistani Nukes as well for that matter, that is just a sub-continental dick-waving contest and helps nobody.
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But I can't help wondering whether the rocket had "Horn Please!! written on the back.
Why don't you take a closer look at the rocket's backside?
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It's India's nig ?? Nukes that rile me, the Pakistani Nukes as well for that matter, that is just a sub-continental dick-waving contest and helps nobody.
The Chinese / Korean / US / Russian nukes don't rile you? The enormous power to wipe out entire cities in the hands of a government that uses military medics for torture, and spies on heads of state across the world seems calming? Also, is 'dick waving' only a continental (read USA/China) right?
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Why don't you take a closer look at the rocket's backside?
Probably safer that the backend of a TukTuk
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Sorry, but what is a 'TukTuk' ?
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It's the educated ones who should know how unjust it is already. The Dalits would be happy for a change tomorrow.
Our History books in school had indepth lessons on how bad practices prevailed due to our Caste system and dalits were not allowed to enter temples etc.
As a kid I always grew up knowing it was a bad practice.We never discussed classmates' castes etc, it was never something that affected us in our daily lives.we knew who spoke what at home, like zurich deutsch or bernese deutsch .. as in hindi gujrati etc
But when it comes to marriages, inter caste marriage is still a big issue.


What I fear the most is the caste system may not get erradicated due to other factors.
Over the time , for the upliftment of "low caste" they now have lots of reservations in govt offices,schools, colleges and have scholarships. This is now mainly supported by the politicians for political gains. and I see no political group would even dare to restructure this and sadly a system like this would only strengthen the caste system.

For me such scholarships grants if at all should be given on the basis of poverty or merit and NOT Caste!
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The Chinese / Korean / US / Russian nukes don't rile you? The enormous power to wipe out entire cities in the hands of a government that uses military medics for torture, and spies on heads of state across the world seems calming? Also, is 'dick waving' only a continental (read USA/China) right?
Yes, they do rile me, and so does the dick-waving between the world's "superpower" and those that came second, don't forget that some of us grew up with the real danger of annihilation, for whatever tatty reasons.
I would have hoped by now that India and Pakistan would have wizened up and signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
They haven't and have been voted the two most countries likely to go Nuclear on each others asses in a conflict.
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