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Old 22.12.2013, 14:43
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Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Are M&S taking this too far? Customers having to wait due the employee choosing not serve them?

What's next.
Non smokers not selling cigarettes.
Non drinkers not selling alcohol?
Vegis not selling meat?

I'm all for respecting someone right to religion and their belief but I don't accept it being forced on someone.

I think M&S have got this one wrong.

Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork

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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Isn't this discrimination of Christian customers?
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Muslim's picking and choosing how to apply their made up faith? Can't say I have seen or heard that before
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Old 22.12.2013, 15:08
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

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Are M&S taking this too far? Customers having to wait due the employee choosing not serve them?
I have not been a fan of M&S for some years for various reasons.

Curious how this will be implemented. If I was a customer in a line and got to the cash till to be told to wait for another member of staff, probably would leave the items there & exit shop, if took more than a minute.

Last time I was in M&S was not happy with their customer service, left shop without buying.
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Old 22.12.2013, 15:44
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I have not been a fan of M&S for some years for various reasons.

Curious how this will be implemented. If I was a customer in a line and got to the cash till to be told to wait for another member of staff, probably would leave the items there & exit shop, if took more than a minute.

Last time I was in M&S was not happy with their customer service, left shop without buying.
Completely agree with this.

To add to that, it could potentially cause unnecessary tension when the attitude of 'I'm not going to that persons till he's a Muslim' crops up, which it will.
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Old 22.12.2013, 16:06
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Completely agree with this.

To add to that, it could potentially cause unnecessary tension when the attitude of 'I'm not going to that persons till he's a Muslim' crops up, which it will.
Maybe they'll open a no alcohol/no pork cash-desk to stand next to the 5-items-or-less cash desk and the child-friendly-no-sweeties-within-grabbing-distance desk.

I normally reserve my "put up or shut up" attitude for when something is completely absurd and this is one such occasion.

If you want to work in food retail in a mainstream high-street chain, you can't treat it like a specialist private business.
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

I can see this working really well on a busy Saturday. All tills in operation, long queues, you've unloaded your large Saturday shop onto the conveyor belt and when you reach the till you're told to find another till because the cashier can't touch a product! As if anyone is going to pack it all up again, make everyone behind them also pack up and back up so they can get out and find someone on another till willing to take their money. I'm with you moggy and Connor, I'd walk out leaving my stuff on the conveyor belt. I'm not religious, but really if you don't/can't deal with all aspects of your job you should find a new one!

They're not touching the products because they're wrapped in plastic or glass. Alternatively, get them to wear the same sort of gloves they wear on the fresh meat/fish counters.
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

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Muslim's picking and choosing how to apply their made up faith? Can't say I have seen or heard that before
aren't all faiths made up?
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Interestingly it doesn't seem to bother the ones who run the local offy or convenience store.

Just saying.
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aren't all faiths made up?
Indeed they are.

It's just the Islamic one tends to be more frivolous in it's modern day application.
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

It looks like M&S are sensitive too the faiths of all their workers. Perhaps that's why employee satisfaction is amongst the highest in the retail sector, which translates to superior customer service.

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Staff not wishing to work on Certain days due to religious beliefs would be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

They said: "We have guidelines in place that set out the requirements and beliefs of different religions, which we have previously discussed and agreed with religious organisations and community groups.

"We treat everyone fairly, so although our colleagues on tills or replenishing stock will be asked to handle alcohol and meat, we will always work closely with individuals to ensure we are inclusive and fair to all."
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Only twats shop at M&S.

So who cares?
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

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Indeed they are.

It's just the Islamic one tends to be more frivolous in it's modern day application.
in what way?

(genuinely interested in which distinction you're drawing)
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Only twats shop at M&S.

So who cares?
That's a long way for you to go shopping, mate.
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in what way?

(genuinely interested in which distinction you're drawing)
The modernisation of the faith that does not in anyway relate to the book on which it is based. Example being this thread topic, covering of ones body and face, jihad, etc etc.
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

If you feel so strongly about it, why in the world would you even apply for a job at a store that sells pork and alcohol in the first place?
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The modernisation of the faith that does not in anyway relate to the book on which it is based. Example being this thread topic, covering of ones body and face, jihad, etc etc.
ok but the same criticism could be levelled at Judaism, Christianity etc

Islam isn't in any way unique
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Old 22.12.2013, 17:17
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ok but the same criticism could be levelled at Judaism, Christianity etc

Islam isn't in any way unique
True. But this thread is about Muslims not the others. Likewise it is the Muslims dominating the news in recent times for such ridiculous entitlement.

Sure there's most definitely reasons for Muslims being the current flavour of topic and up for potential slander but they do a pretty good job on their own too.
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True. But this thread is about Muslims not the others. Likewise it is the Muslims dominating the news in recent times for such ridiculous entitlement.

Sure there's most definitely reasons for Muslims being the current flavour of topic and up for potential slander but they do a pretty good job on their own too.
But you explicitly said that Islam does it more than other faiths:

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Indeed they are.

It's just the Islamic one tends to be more frivolous in it's modern day application.
so you now accept that's untrue?
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Re: Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork.

Hello,
don't know what is the issue here..if the store management accepted it then why do people complain
if someone doesn't like it then don't go buy from them..go to H&M
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