Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1601  
Old 09.06.2016, 00:52
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
http://uatoday.tv/politics/construct...ts-669074.html

Uh oh, if Putin has no money to finance his bridge.... then is Putin going to have to hang himself?


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...built-ilxtahjl
Putin always portrays the image he is well hung

So far as I know the current construction is all about building temporary bridges to allow access by machines and equipment to the actual bridge construction sites.
Also I understand the bridge design is not yet finalised, for example, rail and road alongside each other or one over the other.
Another thing that was kept quiet was about a Turkish ship that went off course and destroyed most of one of the new temporary bridges. The ship is currently being held hostage while they work out who pays for what!
The Turks claim the bridge site was not well marked
Reply With Quote
  #1602  
Old 10.06.2016, 11:08
lewton's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Berlin, Deutschland
Posts: 608
Groaned at 16 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 507 Times in 292 Posts
lewton has earned some respectlewton has earned some respect
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

What was a French far-right "activist" doing in Eastern Ukraine?


Ukraine Arrests French Citizen Who Allegedly Planned Euro 2016 Attack
Also: http://www.euronews.com/2016/06/06/u...ing-euro-2016/



“The Frenchman spoke negatively about his government’s actions, mass immigration, the spread of Islam and globalisation, and also talked about plans to carry out several terrorist attacks,” Gritsak told journalists.
Reply With Quote
  #1603  
Old 10.06.2016, 12:13
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
What was a French far-right "activist" doing in Eastern Ukraine?


Ukraine Arrests French Citizen Who Allegedly Planned Euro 2016 Attack
Also: http://www.euronews.com/2016/06/06/u...ing-euro-2016/



“The Frenchman spoke negatively about his government’s actions, mass immigration, the spread of Islam and globalisation, and also talked about plans to carry out several terrorist attacks,” Gritsak told journalists.
"What was a French far-right "activist" doing in Eastern Ukraine?" Probably a good place to buy weapons?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #1604  
Old 10.06.2016, 12:57
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 5,115
Groaned at 189 Times in 148 Posts
Thanked 6,074 Times in 3,284 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
Probably a good place to buy weapons?
He could have bought them in some friendly Parisian neighbourhoods though..
Reply With Quote
  #1605  
Old 10.06.2016, 13:05
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
He could have bought them in some friendly Parisian neighbourhoods though..
Don't think they have any tanks for sale in the Banlieues?
Reply With Quote
  #1606  
Old 12.06.2016, 17:20
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

100,000 flee 'worsening oppression' as Russia tightens grip on Crimea

Quote "As for why this is taking place, campaigners point to Russia's escalating campaign against dissent. Arrests and unexplained disappearances have become routine in Crimea."

Source
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #1607  
Old 15.06.2016, 19:03
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Prime Minister Medvedev was caught on camera telling an elderly woman in Crimea that there was "no money left" in Russia's budget when he was asked why the state pension of 8,000 Russian rubles a month (around $125 a month) was not higher given the rising cost of living.

The video on YouTube has now been watched over 3.5 million times.

Source and link to video.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #1608  
Old 06.07.2016, 13:04
esto's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bern, baby, Bern
Posts: 1,272
Groaned at 37 Times in 35 Posts
Thanked 2,341 Times in 1,014 Posts
esto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Russia's reserve funds will dry up next year. The presidential election is the year after that. Will be interesting to see how they can keep the masses happy with the current leadership when the wallet is empty and they have to cut pensions, salaries, etc.... No wonder Russia is lobbying so hard to get sanctions lifted.

Quote:
At current rates of spending, it has been clear for some time that the Reserve Fund - which at the start of 2014 stood at $87 billion - would run out around 2017.
The fact that assumption is now included in the finance ministry proposal shows officials have not been able to find savings or sources of additional revenue elsewhere to stop that happening.
Finance ministry officials have been pressing for some time for spending cuts to reduce the budget shortfall, but implementing cuts could be politically damaging because Russia votes in a parliamentary election in September and a presidential election in 2018.
The finance ministry proposal states that there will be 980 billion rubles ($15.27 billion) in the Reserve Fund by the end of this year, dwindling to zero at an unspecified point in 2017.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...-idUSKCN0ZL114
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank esto for this useful post:
  #1609  
Old 06.07.2016, 14:45
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 5,115
Groaned at 189 Times in 148 Posts
Thanked 6,074 Times in 3,284 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
Russia's reserve funds will dry up next year. The presidential election is the year after that. Will be interesting to see how they can keep the masses happy with the current leadership when the wallet is empty and they have to cut pensions, salaries, etc.... No wonder Russia is lobbying so hard to get sanctions lifted.
I have the feeling they can cut and cut, the people will just take it stoically.
They count on the fact that "simpletons" will not be able to do anything against current government due to poor social cohesion. Putin will deviate public attention to something else to keep people occupied..
Unfortunately, in the end it's only simple folks that will suffer because of all these geo-political games.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #1610  
Old 06.07.2016, 20:32
esto's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bern, baby, Bern
Posts: 1,272
Groaned at 37 Times in 35 Posts
Thanked 2,341 Times in 1,014 Posts
esto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
I have the feeling they can cut and cut, the people will just take it stoically.
They count on the fact that "simpletons" will not be able to do anything against current government due to poor social cohesion. Putin will deviate public attention to something else to keep people occupied..
Unfortunately, in the end it's only simple folks that will suffer because of all these geo-political games.
That's the prevailing theory. But with Russia, you never know. Don't forget the protests that rocked Moscow in 2012 after Putin was "re-elected", nobody really expected that either.

Since then, Putin has made stricter new laws punishing separatism (ironically while fueling separatists in Ukraine), and Putin has also created a personal new army that answers directly to him to enforce that new law, so he also seems to see an uprising as a credible threat....
Reply With Quote
  #1611  
Old 11.08.2016, 14:41
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Seems that Putin is raising the stakes in Crimea; maybe seeking a military adventure that could go as far as a land corridor to East Ukraine.
It looks like the bridge connecting Crimea to the mainland will not appear anytime soon so putting pressure on Russia's ability and resources to supply Crimea.
Anyway it is never been clearly stated why the Kerch Straight bridge will be so large; why do you need a four lane highway and a dual track railway to connect places currently served by ferries.
Currently the ferries carry 2,000 passengers a day and plan to increase to 6,000; the new rail bridge alone could carry at least 6,000 passengers an hour (e.g. five Elektrichka's per hour) plus the capacity of the road bridge (3,000 per hour?).

With elections coming up Putin needs some pseudo victories to cement his popularity!

Article here with some interesting points.

Maybe he is just manoeuvring to have the sanctions lifted?
Reply With Quote
  #1612  
Old 18.08.2016, 02:11
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

An ongoing Russian military build-up on Ukraine’s borders may indicate preparations for conventional military conflict. It certainly marks a dramatic escalation of tensions that will have significant repercussions in Ukraine.
Russia has deployed additional military forces and systems to Ukraine’s northern, eastern, and southern borders.
In a five-day period August 7-12th, Russia has deployed additional naval and air units, ground forces and military hardware, as well as the S-400 air defense system on August 12th.
Ukrainian intelligence reported that Russian paratroopers from the 331st parachute regiment rotated into frontline positions in Donetsk as Russia deployed additional artillery systems in Donbas.

Source
Reply With Quote
  #1613  
Old 18.08.2016, 12:55
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 3,049
Groaned at 99 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,786 Times in 1,954 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
An ongoing Russian military build-up on Ukraine’s borders may indicate preparations for conventional military conflict. It certainly marks a dramatic escalation of tensions that will have significant repercussions in Ukraine.
And I was thinking about buying Russian stocks. Guess I'll wait a bit.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #1614  
Old 19.08.2016, 21:58
esto's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bern, baby, Bern
Posts: 1,272
Groaned at 37 Times in 35 Posts
Thanked 2,341 Times in 1,014 Posts
esto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
And I was thinking about buying Russian stocks. Guess I'll wait a bit.
Russia has been in a downward spiral since their Crimea/Ukraine adventure in 2014. The sanctions are not just for show, the whole relationship between US/EU and Russia is heading in a more adversarial direction, and there is no sign of that improving. Plus there's the low gas prices thing. So yea, you might want to hold off on any Russian stocks until you see things improving in US/EU relations. But that will be a while, so look for something else in the meantime.

As for the recent buildup of Russian troops along the Ukraine border, Russia's military exercises in Transnistria, and the Russian-staged "attack" by "Ukrainian saboteurs" on Crimea are indeed heightening tensions. But the consensus is that Putin is trying to frighten EU leaders into pressuring Ukraine to cave in to Russian demands on Donbass, in order to ease or drop sanctions against Russia. Putin is hurting for money, and the Donbass war is dragging out too long. He wants to wrap it up, but on his terms of course. And the best way to do that in his eyes is to "double down" and use more threats of violence, rather than soften his stance and back down or comprimise in some areas.
Reply With Quote
  #1615  
Old 20.08.2016, 02:38
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
Russia has been in a downward spiral since their Crimea/Ukraine adventure in 2014. The sanctions are not just for show, the whole relationship between US/EU and Russia is heading in a more adversarial direction, and there is no sign of that improving. Plus there's the low gas prices thing. So yea, you might want to hold off on any Russian stocks until you see things improving in US/EU relations. But that will be a while, so look for something else in the meantime.

As for the recent buildup of Russian troops along the Ukraine border, Russia's military exercises in Transnistria, and the Russian-staged "attack" by "Ukrainian saboteurs" on Crimea are indeed heightening tensions. But the consensus is that Putin is trying to frighten EU leaders into pressuring Ukraine to cave in to Russian demands on Donbass, in order to ease or drop sanctions against Russia. Putin is hurting for money, and the Donbass war is dragging out too long. He wants to wrap it up, but on his terms of course. And the best way to do that in his eyes is to "double down" and use more threats of violence, rather than soften his stance and back down or comprimise in some areas.
"the Donbass war is dragging out too long" Syria too! Altogether costing Russia a fortune.

How Russia is managing to keep their museum piece fighters and bombers flying in Syria is an extraordinary activity.
One rumour about Russia now using the Iran air base for Syrian missions is that this gives them access to the Iranian spares inventory for Russian fighters!
Reply With Quote
  #1616  
Old 20.08.2016, 20:36
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 3,049
Groaned at 99 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,786 Times in 1,954 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
Russia has been in a downward spiral since their Crimea/Ukraine adventure in 2014. The sanctions are not just for show, the whole relationship between US/EU and Russia is heading in a more adversarial direction, and there is no sign of that improving. Plus there's the low gas prices thing.
From an investment POV oil is the main thing.

Quote:
View Post
And the best way to do that in his eyes is to "double down" and use more threats of violence, rather than soften his stance and back down or comprimise in some areas.
He needs to keep the illegitimate Ucraine government from getting closer to EU/NATO. Keeping the conflict going is a surefire way to that aim.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #1617  
Old 23.08.2016, 13:13
Wollishofener's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 19,028
Groaned at 333 Times in 258 Posts
Thanked 11,712 Times in 6,857 Posts
Wollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Quote:
View Post
"the Donbass war is dragging out too long" Syria too! Altogether costing Russia a fortune.

How Russia is managing to keep their museum piece fighters and bombers flying in Syria is an extraordinary activity.
One rumour about Russia now using the Iran air base for Syrian missions is that this gives them access to the Iranian spares inventory for Russian fighters!


Russia Needs combat Training for ist newe warplanes like the Sukhoi T-50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J38eKcQWimk and the Rosov-Sevastopol-Latakia axis foits navy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty97x5OkZqw

Last edited by Wollishofener; 23.08.2016 at 14:06.
Reply With Quote
  #1618  
Old 13.09.2016, 21:16
esto's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bern, baby, Bern
Posts: 1,272
Groaned at 37 Times in 35 Posts
Thanked 2,341 Times in 1,014 Posts
esto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Another Russian active duty soldier was captured in Ukraine this week. Ironic that the guy has Nazi tattoos, as the "sales pitch" that Russia sold to start the war was the "Ukrainian fascists" were coming to get them

In other news, the pro-Russian leader who took up arms against the Ukrainian government says:
Quote:
Zakharchenko, dressed in a suit instead of his usual camouflage, berated the Ukrainian government for a “lack of willingness to solve the problem in a peaceful manner.”

It came soon after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he expected lawmakers to vote soon on constitutional amendments to give autonomy to parts of eastern Ukraine.

On Tuesday, Russian forces broke a cease-fire agreement signed two weeks ago by attacking Stanytsia Luhanska, a key eastern border town, killing at least three Ukrainian soldiers and wounding more than a dozen, The Times of London reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...fire/90296446/
Reply With Quote
  #1619  
Old 14.09.2016, 22:08
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Interesting article by Bellingcat here.

Seems Russia handed out thousands of "For Distinction in Combat" medals in 2014 and 2015.
Since Russia was not at war at the time then how could Russian soldiers receive war medals? Maybe they were fighting in Ukraine?

Also an Ukrainian video here claiming to show Russians ceasing Ukrainian oil rigs in the Black Sea; maybe the oil rigs voted to be Russian?
Reply With Quote
  #1620  
Old 14.09.2016, 22:45
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 5,115
Groaned at 189 Times in 148 Posts
Thanked 6,074 Times in 3,284 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Who knows what's happening there...I see almost no news related to Ukraine. At least not anymore. The US ambassadors in various European countries started to practice a double game, it's obvious we assist (helplessly) at yet another deal between the powers that be.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
crimea, russia, ukraine




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jewish Refugees in Switzerland during World War II zanskar International affairs/politics 48 16.06.2010 16:58
Book about Switzerland in the second world war [recommendation?] telandy Other/general 14 18.06.2007 21:15


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:57.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0