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View Poll Results: Would you favour Scotland opting for indepence from UK
YES........ go for it 31 50.00%
NO.......... hang on for dear life 31 50.00%
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Old 15.03.2016, 13:07
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

Report in the ft that English investment in Scottish property has almost halved in the last year; law of unexpected side effects!
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I'm pretty sure Salmond said Oil would only account for something like a 5% share of the Scottish economy, he suggested it was a bonus having oil, not a neccessity.

Are you suggesting that you know what the price of oil will be in March 2016? If not, you are being a bit of a hypocrite, no?
Well the US has been fracking everywhere, doesn't need to import oil, and everywhere the oil industry is on it's knees.

Scotland has lost an awful lot of income, and has continued to be a drain on the UK. (See article below, figures from Scottish sources)

I imagine the Scots are very pleased they didn't leave the UK, their deficit is now nearly £15 billion

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14701269.Scotland_s_deficit__almost___15bn__as_Nor th_Sea_oil_revenue_share_falls_97__in_one_year/?ref=twtrec

http://www.bbc.com/news/scotland/scotland_politics

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Old 25.08.2016, 12:39
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

The Herald and BBC were against Independence, so not unusual to find such articles.
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I think that leaving the UK would be a long-term disaster for Scotland that would far outweight the negative effects of remaining in the UK and leaving the EU. It is based on idealism, not practicality, and I really hope it doesn't happen.
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Old 25.08.2016, 14:09
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I think that leaving the UK would be a long-term disaster for Scotland that would far outweight the negative effects of remaining in the UK and leaving the EU. It is based on idealism, not practicality, and I really hope it doesn't happen.
Leaving the EU could turn into (even more of) a clusterfunk.


Small countries can govern themselves better, that's inarguable.
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I think that leaving the UK would be a long-term disaster for Scotland that would far outweight the negative effects of remaining in the UK and leaving the EU. It is based on idealism, not practicality, and I really hope it doesn't happen.
I agree but can perfectly understand the Scots, including those who voted for staying in the UK during the independence referendum, for thinking "stuff it, let's go" after the Brexit result. The map of the results showed, yet again, that Scotland was pulling one way and being dragged the other way by England and Wales.
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I agree but can perfectly understand the Scots, including those who voted for staying in the UK during the independence referendum, for thinking "stuff it, let's go" after the Brexit result. The map of the results showed, yet again, that Scotland was pulling one way and being dragged the other way by England and Wales.
Yes but they also voted to stay in the UK, so that is something that has to be accepted and dealt with when a democratic vote arrives that involves multiple member countries as part of a united sovereign state.

Leaving the UK would at this point be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Old 25.08.2016, 15:06
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The Herald and BBC were against Independence, so not unusual to find such articles.
Maybe, but those figures are compiled by the Scottish government, as I already stated.

Are you suggesting the BBC is changing the reported figures? To what purpose?
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Old 25.08.2016, 15:15
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I agree but can perfectly understand the Scots, including those who voted for staying in the UK during the independence referendum, for thinking "stuff it, let's go" after the Brexit result. The map of the results showed, yet again, that Scotland was pulling one way and being dragged the other way by England and Wales.
My friend went to Stirling in Scotland to visit a friend, whose son had died in an accident. My friend looked around the cemetery and noticed all the stones were showing a lifetime of less than 70 years! We should blame their unhealthy life style, alcohol, tobacco, and the fried Mars bar. My belief is the Scots should wake up and look at themselves. Their increased dependence on the UK (Probably social costs) is very worrying (Look at those figures!) soon they will not be able to support themselves.
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Yes but they also voted to stay in the UK, so that is something that has to be accepted and dealt with when a democratic vote arrives that involves multiple member countries as part of a united sovereign state.

Leaving the UK would at this point be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
A big issue is that the No campaign campaigned on saying that if Scotland went independent that they would find staying in the EU to be quite difficult or impossible.

Now we are leaving the EU anyway!
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Old 25.08.2016, 15:52
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My friend went to Stirling in Scotland to visit a friend, whose son had died in an accident. My friend looked around the cemetery and noticed all the stones were showing a lifetime of less than 70 years! We should blame their unhealthy life style, alcohol, tobacco, and the fried Mars bar. My belief is the Scots should wake up and look at themselves. Their increased dependence on the UK (Probably social costs) is very worrying (Look at those figures!) soon they will not be able to support themselves.


Given that the UK's biggest shortfall is pensions, it is surely massively beneficial to Scotland's independence to have shorter life expectancy.


I'm afraid your anedotal evidence isn't too useful - Stirling is quite affluent (I lived there many years, though I only made Dominos affluent!) and actually has a life expectancy of 82, which is 4 years longer than the UK average.


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We should blame their unhealthy life style, alcohol, tobacco, and the fried Mars bar. My belief is the Scots should wake up and look at themselves. Their increased dependence on the UK (Probably social costs) is very worrying.
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

Scotland has a population of 5.5 million. £145 billion debt and a £14 billion budget deficit.

Greece has a population of 11 million with £245 billion debt and a deficit of £8 billion.

I really do wonder how Scotland would manage. Maybe we'll soon get to see.
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Old 25.08.2016, 17:02
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

We're all in this together, Scotland has no specific debt or budget deficit...yet.
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