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Old 29.06.2015, 10:44
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Re: Islamic State

This is the way to beat ISIS.

CNN Claimed to Spot an ISIS Flag at a Gay Pride March. It Was Actually a Drawing of Sex Toys:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2..._all_dt_tw_top
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Old 29.06.2015, 11:02
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You are right. This place have been targeted already. It's anywhere else that is dangerous because we can't predict when and where it will happen again.
Because lightning never strikes twice? This attack in Sousse was already the second IS terrorist strike in that location, and of course came not long after the Bardo National Museum attack which resulted in the deaths of 22 people (plus two of the terrorists).


You may not be aware that on 26 June, in addition to the 67 deaths (possibly more) attributed to the widely-publicized Sousse attack, the beheading in Lyon and the Shia mosque bombing in Kuwait City, more than 90 people were killed in an attack on an AU base in Somalia and by a suicide bomber in Hasakeh, in Syria. I'm with Loz1983; I'd rather take my chances in Paris, Lyon, Ottawa, Sydney, Charleston, New York, New Delhi, Madrid, London, etc.
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Wonderful to see on the BBC news, many British tourists, with families, who have decided to stay on to the end of their holiday, and saying they would recommend people continue to come- because the Tunisians are wonderful people- who are true victims of this tragedy too. Heart warming.
Groan away Loz- and I wouldn't go to Tunisia now either tbh. But I remember talking to Moroccans after the terrorist attack in Marrakesh, and also in Sharm-el-Sheik- and the people rely totally on tourism for earning a pittance- and they are vicitims too, and I feel desperately sorry for them.
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Old 29.06.2015, 11:49
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Groan away Loz- and I wouldn't go to Tunisia now either tbh. But I remember talking to Moroccans after the terrorist attack in Marrakesh, and also in Sharm-el-Sheik- and the people rely totally on tourism for earning a pittance- and they are vicitims too, and I feel desperately sorry for them.
Yes, nearly half a million people are reliant on tourism in Tunisia, and they deserve to be given a break. I just can't stand it when people say "they are the real victims here" when innocents have been shot in cold blood.
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Old 29.06.2015, 11:53
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Terrorist attacks in Paris, Lyon, Ottawa, Sydney, Charleston, New York, New Delhi, Madrid, London, etc.
...Bali, Luxor, Lamu Kenya, Sharm-el-Sheikh, Bardo Museum, Cairo, Dahab...
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Yes, nearly half a million people are reliant on tourism in Tunisia, and they deserve to be given a break. I just can't stand it when people say "they are the real victims here" when innocents have been shot in cold blood.
But did I say that??? I said they were victims too- not quite the same, is it!
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Old 29.06.2015, 12:24
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...Bali, Luxor, Lamu Kenya, Sharm-el-Sheikh, Bardo Museum, Cairo, Dahab...
My A'level in Statistics has stood me in good stead when it comes to imagining risk. Simply put, millions of tourists have uneventful trips to Egypt and Tunisia each year.
And it probably still holds true that the riskiest parts of your holiday are the drives to and from the airport.
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The President has already called up 000s of army reservists to guard the resorts and national monuments.
Beefed up security, police road blocks etc... will also be introduced to create a ring of steel around the popular tourist areas. There is probably no safer time to go than 'now'.
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Old 29.06.2015, 12:58
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My A'level in Statistics has stood me in good stead when it comes to imagining risk. Simply put, millions of tourists have uneventful trips to Egypt and Tunisia each year.
And it probably still holds true that the riskiest parts of your holiday are the drives to and from the airport.
Statistically you're more likely to be killed by a tsunami (250,000 dead after Boxing Day 2004). Or a road accident. Or a meteorite. But there's something about the thought of cowering with your loved ones whilst a madman runs about shooting people indiscriminately (in this case actually he targeted white people), that would make me want to try and avoid ever being in such a situation.

I travelled many times to Libya before Gaddaffi was ousted, and it was one of the most interesting and friendly places I've ever been to, with so much to see and do. Despite this, there's no way I would willingly go back there now.
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Old 29.06.2015, 14:56
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Re: Islamic State

Tunisia will also close down mosques.

The article also says Tunisia is in a civil war with Al Qaeda/ISIS (14 soldiers killed this week !) - When Arabs are killing arabs there is no international interest.

Tunisia is a backward, racist and corrupt country - but it's the closest thing the Arab world has to democracy. A cheap sea&sun holiday will help it avoid becoming like it's neighboring countries.
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Old 29.06.2015, 15:56
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Statistically you're more likely to be killed by a tsunami (250,000 dead after Boxing Day 2004). Or a road accident. Or a meteorite. But there's something about the thought of cowering with your loved ones whilst a madman runs about shooting people indiscriminately (in this case actually he targeted white people), that would make me want to try and avoid ever being in such a situation.
It is a very emotive decision and I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for avoiding Tunisia based on what has just happened. I would personally love to visit South Africa and parts of South America but wouldn't based on their high crime rates, which for me is a more serious threat than isolated terrorist incidents in an otherwise safe country.
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Old 29.06.2015, 16:25
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My A'level in Statistics has stood me in good stead when it comes to imagining risk. Simply put, millions of tourists have uneventful trips to Egypt and Tunisia each year.
And it probably still holds true that the riskiest parts of your holiday are the drives to and from the airport.
You haven't been to Tunisia, have you? If you'd seen the way they drive there you wouldn't be saying this.
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You haven't been to Tunisia, have you? If you'd seen the way they drive there you wouldn't be saying this.
Reminds me of Italy
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Old 30.06.2015, 08:37
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Looks like I was wrong earlier... best off staying here for my jollies

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Old 01.07.2015, 22:59
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Re: Islamic State

lsis franchise staged a large scale attack in North Sinai, Egyptian army suffers many casualties.
As Egypt's army is better trained and equipped than most Arab countries this is very disturbing.

I wonder what the impact will be on Egyptian tourism.
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Old 01.07.2015, 23:55
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lsis franchise staged a large scale attack in North Sinai, Egyptian army suffers many casualties.
As Egypt's army is better trained and equipped than most Arab countries this is very disturbing.

I wonder what the impact will be on Egyptian tourism.
Are Israelis not worried?
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You haven't been to Tunisia, have you? If you'd seen the way they drive there you wouldn't be saying this.

I repeatedly drove in Tunisia over the years (hired cars) and found driving in Tunisia quite a decent thing. I in fact like the Tunisian driving style
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lsis franchise staged a large scale attack in North Sinai, Egyptian army suffers many casualties.
As Egypt's army is better trained and equipped than most Arab countries this is very disturbing.

I wonder what the impact will be on Egyptian tourism.

Northern Sinaï is NOT a tourism destination. While Western and Southern Sinaî IS.


Reason for concern is the map above. Switzerland in green must be a challenge to extremists. And once they realize that there are more US tourists in Luzern per square kilometer than anywhere else I fear the worst. I over the years witnessed that the Swiss Federal Civil Aviation Authority reacted to terrorism in the world by expanding bureaucracy to unprecedented Levels, which does not improve my feelings
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Old 02.07.2015, 04:09
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Are Israelis not worried?


THEY and also the Jordanians ARE worried.. BOTH in recent years have done a lot to counter the terror-threat. There of course is no waterproof security
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Are Israelis not worried?
I doubt it. Israel has one of the best trained, well equipped armed forces in the world. Besides, they've already fought and won against most of the Arab world on three separate occassions so I doubt they're too concerned by a bunch of bearded men with camera phones. Gaza and Hamas could be concerned though.

ISIS are penned in, they won't venture too far north because Turkey would obliterate them. Iran are also looking for any excuse to do battle against ISIS in the East.
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