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Old 09.10.2014, 06:42
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Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

#BBCtrending: The female football fan causing outrage in Saudi Arabia

When are these IDIOTS going to reach the 20th century?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-29527556
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Old 09.10.2014, 08:11
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

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#BBCtrending: The female football fan causing outrage in Saudi Arabia

When are these IDIOTS going to reach the 20th century?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-29527556
Just for the record: you are drawing conclusions on Saudi men based on comments on youtube. I honestly don't want anyone draw any conclusion on my culture based on the comments you find on there either, so maybe we shouldn't do that. Youtube comments are notoriously rubbish, it won't take long to find tons of racist, sexist, homophobic or any other flavour of morally wrong there. And the commentors are teenagers taking the piss from around the world.

So the much bigger question: If everyone knows that youtube comments are about on par with 4chan - why does the BBC report about it as if it was news?
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:00
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

why not spin it the other way around? Football crosses all boundaries - nationality, sex, religion.

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Old 09.10.2014, 09:15
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

Well I guess considering that women are banned from going to football matches in Saudi Arabia, the stupidity is not limited to the youtube commentors.

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In Saudi Arabia itself, women are banned from attending football matches, but since the game was taking place in the UAE, this spectator - together with several other women cheering for Saudi, like those pictured above - were able to join their fellow male supporters in the stadium.
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:28
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

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Well I guess considering that women are banned from going to football matches in Saudi Arabia, the stupidity is not limited to the youtube commentors.
Honestly: Women being banned from football matches is really not the biggest human rights issue in Saudi Arabia, is it?

Here is the freedom house rating of the country. It's actually pretty hard to get the absolute worst grade possible...

http://freedomhouse.org/report/freed...0#.VDYqQ-chqN0
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:39
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

indeed - they can't get to the matches because they can't drive. Well can't as in are not allowed to....
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:45
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indeed - they can't get to the matches because they can't drive. Well can't as in are not allowed to....
On the other hand do they not need to fear repercussions for the video back home as they can hardly be identified by their outfits...
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:46
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Just for the record: you are drawing conclusions on Saudi men based on comments on youtube. I honestly don't want anyone draw any conclusion on my culture based on the comments you find on there either, so maybe we shouldn't do that. Youtube comments are notoriously rubbish, it won't take long to find tons of racist, sexist, homophobic or any other flavour of morally wrong there. And the commentors are teenagers taking the piss from around the world.

So the much bigger question: If everyone knows that youtube comments are about on par with 4chan - why does the BBC report about it as if it was news?
Sorry, but rubbish though a lot of stuff on YouTube may be, the fact is Saudi Arabia still has too many restrictions on what women can and can't do outside the home. Not allowed to drive a vehicle, not allowed to open a bank account without a male guardian's permission. Come on! This is God knows what century thinking, not 21st.
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Old 09.10.2014, 09:54
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

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Come on! This is God knows what century thinking, not 21st.
I think I see a flaw in your argument. They're not quite in the 21st Century, nor is God the basis for thinking. Try their year 1435 logic and we'd still be fighting wars in Europe and eating each other's pets.
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

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why not spin it the other way around? Football crosses all boundaries - nationality, sex, religion.

#lovefootball #bringtheworldtogether
Because Sbrinz is an undercover racist.

He's one of those 'I'm not racist but....*insert racist comment*'
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Just for the record: you are drawing conclusions on Saudi men based on comments on youtube.
I have to admit that the people that make comments in general on youtube are not the smartest most educated ones...regardless of nationality
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Because Sbrinz is an undercover racist.

He's one of those 'I'm not racist but....*insert racist comment*'
we all have prejudices porschie...
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

They be like, "Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?".

I'm not sure what the point of taking selfies and photos in a Burka is. "Oh, that is Auntie Aisha there, second to the left".
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I have to admit that the people that make comments in general on youtube are not the smartest most educated ones...regardless of nationality
Some people say about the same things about online forums participants...
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Old 09.10.2014, 10:26
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Some people say about the same things about online forums participants...
I was thinking the same thing while I was writing, at least I know some of the people on here . Honestly though, have you ever read the youtube comments?
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Honestly though, have you ever read the youtube comments?
Generally speaking, you are right.
But I would say it depends on what you watch, you could also find pretty sensible comments. Video clips with football female fans were prone to attract lots of weirdos anyway, irrespective of the country tbh.

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On the other hand do they not need to fear repercussions for the video back home as they can hardly be identified by their outfits...
Err, what makes you think these Saudi supporters actually hail from Saudi?

It is basically impossible for women to do anything in Saudi, as Sean said earlier, so how do you reckon they got all the way to UAE unchecked.

More likely they are ex-pats living in UAE who just went to the game, so there are no repercussions to be had.
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Old 09.10.2014, 12:46
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

I'm curious as to why this thread is allowed, but "Arrogant Arabs" was deleted. Not that I saw the thread in question, but it does seem odd where the line is drawn, sometimes.



Anyway, the irony is that if the Saudis weren't so keen to have women cover their faces, they'd know who they were complaining about. So hey, +1 for the veil!
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Err, what makes you think these Saudi supporters actually hail from Saudi?
1. You will find a lot of people all over the world wearing English, German or Brazilian jerseys... Saudi Arabian football? Probably even less popular than North Korean.

2. It's the UAE - that's where Saudis go on the weekend to have a party while being religious bigots from Monday to Friday. I'd expect half the stadium to be full of Saudis actually...
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Re: Stupid, stupid, Saudi men!

Women in Saudi Arabia have pretty much no rights whatsoever. That's not racist. It's simply a fact. And certainly one that is not based on a YouTube video.

And of course a football match is not the most important thing and Saudi women have many other issues to deal with. It simply represents what is unfortunately normal for them, i.e. that they don't even have the most basic human rights.

I doubt this will change any time soon. But I admire every single woman in Saudi and other countries who has the massive courage (because that's what it is) to try to make a difference, however small it may be and even if it's just for a football match.
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