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Old 02.12.2014, 17:09
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Because they're from EU countries?

I asked for a good reason.
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Old 02.12.2014, 17:10
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I wish the Brits would fix their state first so that if they didn't wish million or more new immigrant they could have stopped it in its tracks.
But at least good to know what even the most polished ones think about immigrants in their hearts.
With a 2/3 voters rejecting Ecopop dare I to hope that my kids be less discriminated here than in a UK province?
I must have read this post five times now and I still don't understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that Britain is a broken state full of racists?
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LOL... give me one good reason why a Pole or a Romanian should be given precedence over a Pakistani or a Trinidadian who wants to move to the United Kingdom.
I'll tell you only when you tell me one good reason why a Brit should be given precedence over a Peruvian or a Chinese in CH? Oh, or an American?
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I must have read this post five times now and I still don't understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that Britain is a broken state full of racists?

Maybe rather that its gov't let immigrate people who weren't welcomed (to put it mildly) even by its educated middle class thus setting stage for an ugly thing now.
When you read immigration-related posts on a UK forum you'll see the degree of feelings.
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Old 02.12.2014, 17:27
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Re: UK targets East Europe immigrants

It depends which forum you're reading. That's a gross generalisation
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LOL... give me one good reason why a Pole or a Romanian should be given precedence over a Pakistani or a Trinidadian who wants to move to the United Kingdom.
Bcsse most of them are seriously willing to integrate!
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Old 02.12.2014, 17:40
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I'll tell you only when you tell me one good reason why a Brit should be given precedence over a Peruvian or a Chinese in CH? Oh, or an American?
They shouldn't.
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Bcsse most of them are seriously willing to integrate!
Just like most Trinidadians and Pakistanis. So why should the Europeans get precedence over them?
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Bcsse most of them are seriously willing to integrate!
I think most immigrants are willing to integrate, although sometimes it's a tough job, as it could be the case here, if one is not accepted. But in a way I get what DB says against EU, I also see the bad points of it.
On the other hand let's not fuel the mass hysteria, I know people living and working there who are not being lynched in the street. On the contrary, they're doing pretty well.
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Old 02.12.2014, 17:51
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LOL... give me one good reason why a Pole or a Romanian should be given precedence over a Pakistani or a Trinidadian who wants to move to the United Kingdom.
They can cope with the weather better
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Old 03.12.2014, 02:22
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I wish the Brits would fix their state first so that if they didn't wish million or more new immigrant they could have stopped it in its tracks.
Frankly I personally wish my country (any Eastern European country) fix its problems so that not all doctors, nurses and many other skilled labour would go away, to UK or elsewhere to help developing other places instead of ours, to cater for their needs. Or less skilled people who are exploited and not treated quite fair in other countries.
Yeah, sounds hypocritical when heard from someone who's already living abroad, like wanting to limit other people options, aspirations or personal growth, but of course it's not the case, just also care very much about my family who's there and doesn't want to go anywhere else, or friends, people I know.
Everyone talks about how poor countries will be invaded by rivers of immigrants who'd change the culture in their valleys and no-one about the other side. It just shows how much arrogance but whatever.
And no, that doesn't mean I'd ever agree with Mr. Cameron's speech and the likes. Or with the idea of any other citizens of EU have less rights.
Btw he's been also targeting Mediterranean countries, so I guess I should wish them fix their problems too.

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It is Why can't they go and work in Russia? .
For the same reasons why you can't you go and work in the UK.
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Old 03.12.2014, 07:06
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For the same reasons why you can't you go and work in the UK.
I didn't move to Switzerland for work.

But thank you for completely and utterly missing the point, and proving mine at the same time. Of course you don't understand what I'm saying - but an Indian or a Zimbabwean would!
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Old 03.12.2014, 07:20
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Why don't you stuff yourself (to death?) with bacon instead???
Haha, you're actually being serious. Chill! It was a joke.

btw Don't think I didn't spot your racist jibe!

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Frankly I personally wish my country (any Eastern European country) fix its problems so that not all doctors, nurses and many other skilled professionals would go away, to UK or elsewhere to help developing other places instead of ours, to cater for their needs. Or less educated people who are exploited and not treated quite fair in other countries.
Yeah, sounds hypocritical when heard from someone who's already living abroad, like wanting to limit other people options, aspirations or personal growth, but of course it's not the case, just also care very much about my family who's there and doesn't want to go anywhere else, or friends, people I know.
Everyone talks about how poor countries will be invaded by rivers of immigrants who'd change the culture in their valleys and no-one about the other side. It just shows how much arrogance but whatever.
And no, that doesn't mean I'd ever agree with Mr. Cameron's speech and the likes. Or with the idea of any other citizens of EU have less rights.
Btw he's been also targeting Mediterranean countries, so I guess I should wish them fix their problems too.
If they are being exploited why do they agree to work for the low wage ?

Seems to me, foreign labour who will arrive and undercut local wage = poor exploited innocent immigrant. Uk national who won't accept the work unless paying minimum wage = lazy good for nothing waster.

Correct ?
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I didn't move to Switzerland for work.

But thank you for completely and utterly missing the point, and proving mine at the same time. Of course you don't understand what I'm saying - but an Indian or a Zimbabwean would!
You're writing in English and I'm reading in Simplified English. What I understood was:
<<There are too many foreigners (already? coming?) to the UK. Period. But if anybody more could come, then from the former British colonies - due to (unexplained further) moral obligation for a "special relationship" (a remorse?)>>
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You're writing in English and I'm reading in Simplified English. What I understood was:
<<There are too many foreigners (already? coming?) to the UK. Period. But if anybody more could come, then from the former British colonies - due to (unexplained further) moral obligation for a "special relationship" (a remorse?)>>
Nope. Utterly clueless. Point proven again.
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If they are being exploited why do they agree to work for the low wage ?

Seems to me, foreign labour who will arrive and undercut local wage = poor exploited innocent immigrant. Uk national who won't accept the work unless paying minimum wage = lazy good for nothing waster.

Correct ?
Innocent? No, rather forced to accept certain conditions. It might be hard to believe but he would also love to work for more money and all the social insurance package. As for the UK national I think he would prefer to do other kind of jobs, nothing wrong here.
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I like my gherkins, chutney, cottage pie, continental breakfast, bangers, curry and Irish coffee whether it's served in Zimbabwe, South Africa or on Sri Lanka. The ambience must also be classic in a rhythm of cricket or rugby game with pint served at the bar. I also resent lack of Union Jack signs in some pubs. And if you don't put shamrock symbol on my Guinness's froth I will complain to the manager
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Innocent? No, rather forced to accept certain conditions. It might be hard to believe but he would also love to work for more money and all the social insurance package. As for the UK national I think he would prefer to do other kind of jobs, nothing wrong here.
Where's the force here ? Its a voluntary move between countries to look for work. If the work isn't suitable, dont take it, if in the end there are no suitable paying jobs, then the search has not proven successful and go to next country / return home or whatever is next.

The idea you are "forced" into the work solely in the UK is a bit ridiculous, it gives the impression of chain gangs.

For the UK National, you are being far too harsh, you cannot paint everyone with the same brush. There are plenty of foreign people who immigrate into here just to scam the system, make up invisible children, demand housing and the whole lot, in the same way there are plenty of UK nationals who are desperate to work but cannot find a job. The idea that all incoming European migrants have halo's round their heads and are desperatly exploited by the evil British Employer for his own ends while the rest of Britain sits at home workless in their armchairs is fantasy. The truth is both sides have their lazy and workshy folk, from any national source.
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