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Old 13.01.2015, 12:53
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

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"Nowicki said the organisers had used the ban for their own ends. “It wasn’t forced top-down,” he said. “It was a nice publicity stunt. What the Legida protesters did was to proclaim that they have been forced not to show any of those caricatures. In reality it wasn’t quite like that.”

A spokesman for the city said the ban had been imposed by mutual agreement between organisers and the local public order office. "
But a ban is something that is forced no? The ban was not forced top down, yet the mayor was in a position to lift it? Is that not strange? So if the protestor bilaterally agree something with the local public order office (whatever that is), then in what position is a mayor to overrule that? If I was the head of said public order office and I had negotiated some "voluntary rules" with protestors and the mayor cancels that agreement behind my back, I'd feel pretty miffed, and I'd make sure as many people as possible knew exactly how miffed I was feeling.

And saying "it wasn't quite like that" implies that it was a bit like that.

To me it seems that heavy handed local officials said to hell with the constitution, these Hartz 4 idiots don't know their rights anyway, so let's invent some rules. Then the light dawned on somebody and they kicked a stink and now somebody is trying to worm their way out of the responibility and trying to make out the protestors are to blame for doing a Jedi mind trick on the mayor that forced him to lift this voluntary ban.
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Old 13.01.2015, 12:59
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

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Jesus, you are wrong on so many levels...

a) caricatures of Mohammed are not a political symbol
I think at present they are. Especially if the far right use them.

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c) hard to believe, but Germany isn't fascist. The major of a city cannot on his own decide a ban of a symbol - the parliament makes laws and the police enforces it. Banning a symbol is something rather rare.
This is my point exactly. Only that i find it strange that if he doesn't have the power to ban it, he does have the power to unban it. Thus to me this story stinks.
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Old 13.01.2015, 13:03
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

The Swiss Pegida front man was a PNOS member and perhaps neo-Nazi, yet has 43% of his Facebook likes from India.

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

http://www.vice.com/alps/read/betrue...zvergleich-787

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Old 13.01.2015, 13:08
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The Swiss Pegida front man was a PNOS member and perhaps neo-Nazi, yet has 43% of his Facebook likes from India.

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

http://www.vice.com/alps/read/betrue...zvergleich-787

I wonder how they get statistics like that.

You know, sometimes my facebook posts get shared and liked by people I don't know and it would be nice to see some statistics. Maybe mine are equally wierd.

Also, if he posts a lot of anti Muslim stuff, is it really surprising that there are certain subsets of the Indian population who might agree with that?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolit...e_Babri_Masjid
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Old 13.01.2015, 13:11
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I wonder how they get statistics like that.

You know, sometimes my facebook posts get shared and liked by people I don't know and it would be nice to see some statistics. Maybe mine are equally wierd.
SternTV's Facebook Like Check

http://www.sterntv-experimente.de/FacebookLikeCheck/
http://www.stern.de/tv/sterntv/stern...s-1963314.html
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Old 13.01.2015, 13:13
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

It looks like the old Nazi socialist party is still alive and kicking in Argentina!

Maybe the high Indian support for Ignaz Bearth is from users of the dark, hidden Internet?
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Old 13.01.2015, 13:53
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

The Dutch approach

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...f-live-TV.html
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Old 13.01.2015, 13:58
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

I like the cut of his jib.
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Old 13.01.2015, 14:02
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe


What a racist Islamophobe that man is. But I love 'em.
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

Well it would be logical to say ignorance is the greatest enemy?
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

Well here is the way one Jewish newspaper gets rid of unwanted women
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Old 13.01.2015, 23:25
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Well here is the way one Jewish newspaper gets rid of unwanted women
This the feminist magazine report on the Paris rally.
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Old 13.01.2015, 23:48
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Of course individuals and families don't go to Germany with that intention. But they do bring their cultures and beliefs that are often in conflict with that of many Germans.



They don't look much like the EDL to me.



germans are skinny, brits are fat...any surprises here?
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I think at present they are. Especially if the far right use them.
Ok, they are used by the far right to provoke and we could now forever discuss "what makes a symbol a symbol"... but the bottom line is that Germany takes civil rights rather seriously and you cannot ban whatever roughly resembles some muslim guy that could be mistaken as mohammed - a ban is only allowed for very clearly and narrowly defined symbols. That's why the neo nazis find a ton of stuff to put on their jackets that leave no question what they are trying to say but isn't technically a swastica. You can ban the ISIS flag, but you cannot ban any black flag with some arabic on it...
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germans are skinny, brits are fat...any surprises here?
Germans are skinny...lol.
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This the feminist magazine report on the Paris rally.
good to see that even the feminists have decided to censor Sommaruga.
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

BREAKING NEWS: RACIST IS RACIST
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

Hitler would be happy to find out that, apparently the Jews will be leaving Europe... I wonder what Pegida thinks...(if you can't get rid of both, at least one will do?)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30924276
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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

Perhaps he was headed to a party with Prince Harry and Max Mosley?
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Perhaps he was headed to a party with Prince Harry and Max Mosley?
Possibly but what's formula one got to do with Hitler?
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