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In fact, if the people who did are not found to be religious extremists from the Islamic religion I will personally send you a wedge of Godminster.
Even if they turned out to be Jewish Freemasonry Illuminati Frenchmen, the fact blaspheme is avenged by murder, as it has often is in many places; Theo Van Gogh and Westergaard for example, and countless death threats that have already been sent, you can still draw the incrimination to this view on blaspheme. I mean, God is blasphemed by these blaspheme penalties.
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Simply because we are allowed the freedom of speech doesn't mean that we should always take the opportunity to abuse it.
This is true, and thats why we don't go around all day long flipping off everybody who bothers us in some fashion or another. God knows there are enough reasons in Switzerland.

But that breaks down completely in the face of extremism, particularly the barbarism seen in this case.

A quote from this article, particularly poignant since it comes from one of those (and I use this word deliberately) martyred today in the long fight against extremism.

"Charbonnier, Charlie Hebdo’s editor, sounds exactly sensible and intelligent when he says that the cartoons will only “shock those who will want to be shocked.” He also told Le Monde, “I don’t feel as though I’m killing someone with a pen. I’m not putting lives at risk. When activists need a pretext to justify their violence, they always find it.”"
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But I think that the freedom of speech should come with some degree of responsibility, particularly since it is often used solely as a means to offend or "get a laugh" -- as was perhaps (or most likely) the case with the cartoons published by this newspaper. What else could their intentions have been?
Are you suggesting we should ban satire? Or do you want state-controlled censorship?

Why not ask some people who lived behind the Iron curtain what it was like to live under that sort of regime?
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But I think that the freedom of speech should come with some degree of responsibility, particularly since it is often used solely as a means to offend or "get a laugh" -- as was perhaps (or most likely) the case with the cartoons published by this newspaper. What else could their intentions have been?
If you think the motive behind a well-respected magazine, which publishes these cartoons denouncing everything that religious extremism represents (in the face of constant threats against their own safety) are doing it simply "to get a laugh" then wow... *shakes head*

It was (is) their platform to voice their opinions on the issues they feel strongly and with conviction about, and the moment religious extremism, violence and terror acts bully the Western media into staying quiet, then they will have got exactly the kind of victory they are looking for in order to fuel more extremism.
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But I think that the freedom of speech should come with some degree of responsibility, particularly since it is often used solely as a means to offend or "get a laugh" -- as was perhaps (or most likely) the case with the cartoons published by this newspaper. What else could their intentions have been?

Well, of course no one deserved to lose their lives because of these cartoons, but at the same time, I do think it's time that all sides start taking more moral responsibility for their actions, because if we really do want peace, then perhaps we should consider acting accordingly. I don't want my little boy to grow up in a world in which the tensions between the Muslim world and the non-Muslim world have escalated into a full-blown third world war, particularly if it was in part due to our own inability to understand the fact that, regardless of it being right or wrong, there are some people out there who are willing to kill on behalf of their religion and to defend what they hold as sacred. Despite how much we might disagree with that kind of belief system, if we don't respect the fact that it does (and probably always did and always will) exist, then it's just a vicious circle, and there will never be peace between the Muslim world and the non-Muslim world.
you're absolutely right, the answer here is to cow-tow to violence, barbarism and irrationality.



if you travel to the parts of the world governed by institutionalized Islam, you will find remarkably little interest for "peace" or "understanding" with the "western world". and I used the word "institutionalized" intentionally, there is no more intrinsically flawed about Islam than there is about Judaism, Christianity or any other organized faith, but there is very definitely a disconnect between the way Islam has been institutionalized in parts of the world and the "western world".

if you'd like, of course, you can stroll the streets of Riyadh and ask around and see how much "understanding" you find.
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Old 07.01.2015, 21:27
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if you travel to the parts of the world governed by institutionalized Islam, you will find remarkably little interest for "peace" or "understanding" with the "western world". and I used the word "institutionalized" intentionally, there is no more intrinsically flawed about Islam than there is about Judaism, Christianity or any other organized faith, but there is very definitely a disconnect between the way Islam has been institutionalized in parts of the world and the "western world".
And you'll also see a population that cannot speak freely, and so cannot think freely, and so cannot create and innovate, and it shows in what they produce in their lives, and how they treat each other. Only thing left for them to do is to try to pull everybody else down to their same retarded level.
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1) If every newspaper were to put those cartoons on their front page, I'm quite certain that it would offend more than just the minority of Muslims that constitute the jihadists. I'm sure there would be plenty of non-violent Muslims (the majority of them) who would also be offended but would not be willing to resort to violence because of it.
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2) But I think that the freedom of speech should come with some degree of responsibility, particularly since it is often used solely as a means to offend or "get a laugh" -- as was perhaps (or most likely) the case with the cartoons published by this newspaper. What else could their intentions have been?
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3) Well, of course no one deserved to lose their lives because of these cartoons, but at the same time, I do think it's time that all sides start taking more moral responsibility for their actions, because if we really do want peace, then perhaps we should consider acting accordingly. I don't want my little boy to grow up in a world in which the tensions between the Muslim world and the non-Muslim world have escalated into a full-blown third world war, particularly if it was in part due to our own inability to understand the fact that, regardless of it being right or wrong, there are some people out there who are willing to kill on behalf of their religion and to defend what they hold as sacred. Despite how much we might disagree with that kind of belief system, if we don't respect the fact that it does (and probably always did and always will) exist, then it's just a vicious circle, and there will never be peace between the Muslim world and the non-Muslim world.

4)Simply because we are allowed the freedom of speech doesn't mean that we should always take the opportunity to abuse it.
1) the caricature mocked ISIS and radical Islam. currently the world's most eligble targets for mocking.

2-4) Freedom of speech is there to be used. If someone is offended, it's their problem. As long as the speech is not racist or violent it should be allowed.
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Why would someone cries it out? Just for the fun of it? A witness was told by one of the murderer to tell the newspapers that this was from Al Qaida.

No, we can't prove it. But frankly, why one would pretend to be a fanatic and kill 12 people? To make the fanatics look bad? I think they already covered that part.
It's called a "false flag operation".
They're usually lame excuses to start a war (WW2 for example).
But once the bullets are flying, people don't ask a lot of questions anymore.

Look, I don't want to imply anything.

But just because we have a video on LiveLeak with a head-shot (which I haven't seen myself, admittedly) doesn't mean it's an open and shut case.

Both sides in this conflict are masters of psychology and (media) manipulation.
And people usually only see what they want to see.

Of course, it's highly likely that is an AQ/IS gig. But does AQ/IS really profit from it?

All I know is that (so far) twelve people are dead.
A very sad day for what remains of the "free world", for sure.
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And you'll also see a population that cannot speak freely, and so cannot think freely, and so cannot create and innovate, and it shows in what they produce in their lives, and how they treat each other. Only thing left for them to do is to try to pull everybody else down to their same retarded level.
the cruelest irony, to me at least, is that the same institutionalized faith that they are willing to kill for in Paris or anywhere else is the same tool being used to keep them politically powerless and economically, spiritually and intellectually impoverished. the real enemy here is not "the west", and it is not "the Muslims", it is totalitarianism.
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Absolutely nothing can justifiy this violence and murder. The journalists at Charlie Hebdo knew the risks they were taking and Charb the director clearly said "I prefer to die standing, than live kneeling". They were the defenders of the right to speak and publish. They are paying today a high price....so that WE all here can still exercise our rights for freedom. Charlie Hebdo mocked equally christians, jews, muslims and right-extremists.
What I find strange about that quote, though, is that I doubt anyone had actually been forcing him to "kneel." Simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we are directly threatened by it. And simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we should cease it as an opportunity to attack it.

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A quote from this article, particularly poignant since it comes from one of those (and I use this word deliberately) martyred today in the long fight against extremism.

"Charbonnier, Charlie Hebdo’s editor, sounds exactly sensible and intelligent when he says that the cartoons will only “shock those who will want to be shocked.” He also told Le Monde, “I don’t feel as though I’m killing someone with a pen. I’m not putting lives at risk. When activists need a pretext to justify their violence, they always find it.”"
But he did put lives at risk (whether intentionally or not), because those people would quite likely still be alive today if it hadn't been for the magazine publishing (creating?) those cartoons.

I appreciate satire as much as the next person, but being that he had a bodyguard, etc., it sounds like he was well aware of the potential consequences.

It reminds me a bit of that cult leader (in the US) a while back whose worship service involved handling poisonous snakes. Eventually, he died of a snake bite.

How does that saying go? "You play with fire, you will get burnt..."

Again, I very much appreciate the freedom of speech, but I think it comes with a certain level of responsibility. Kind of like driving.
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Old 07.01.2015, 21:39
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Again, I very much appreciate the freedom of speech, but I think it comes with a certain level of responsibility. Kind of like driving.
Well how good a driver are you then? Should you be shot because you offended somebody by changing lanes without signalling.

Their lives were at risk because of a violent, totalitarian ideology, not because they published cartoons that some might see as dumb or nasty.
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What I find strange about that quote, though, is that I doubt anyone had actually been forcing him to "kneel." Simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we are directly threatened by it. And simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we should cease it as an opportunity to attack it.

But he did put lives at risk (whether intentionally or not), because those people would quite likely still be alive today if it hadn't been for the magazine publishing (creating?) those cartoons.

I appreciate satire as much as the next person, but being that he had a bodyguard, etc., it sounds like he was well aware of the potential consequences.

It reminds me a bit of that cult leader (in the US) a while back whose worship service involved handling poisonous snakes. Eventually, he died of a snake bite.

How does that saying go? "You play with fire, you will get burnt..."

Again, I very much appreciate the freedom of speech, but I think it comes with a certain level of responsibility. Kind of like driving.
There is no way to even begin responding to that post in any depth without unwittingly insulting your intelligence (your first and last paragraphs, arrgh), but let me just say that the sentiments contained within it are absolutely ridiculous.
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Freedom of speech is an absolute right....it wears out only if you don't practise it.
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I appreciate satire as much as the next person...
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Latest news: the french police seems to have identified suspects in Pantin (suburbs of Paris) and in Reims (130km east of Paris). Apartments used by suspects haven been raided in both cities.

Pierre Martinet, a former officer at french counter-terrorism agency has published on his Facebook page the names of the 3 suspects identified by french police.
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What I find strange about that quote, though, is that I doubt anyone had actually been forcing him to "kneel." Simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we are directly threatened by it. And simply because something exists that we ourselves do not believe in does not mean that we should cease it as an opportunity to attack it.



But he did put lives at risk (whether intentionally or not), because those people would quite likely still be alive today if it hadn't been for the magazine publishing (creating?) those cartoons.

I appreciate satire as much as the next person, but being that he had a bodyguard, etc., it sounds like he was well aware of the potential consequences.

It reminds me a bit of that cult leader (in the US) a while back whose worship service involved handling poisonous snakes. Eventually, he died of a snake bite.

How does that saying go? "You play with fire, you will get burnt..."

Again, I very much appreciate the freedom of speech, but I think it comes with a certain level of responsibility. Kind of like driving.
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first of all- it's satire- not slapstick humor but one that provokes the audience to question the legitimacy and ridiculousness of political views, religious views, all other forms of dogma, etc. this isn't for shits and giggles but to show how tightly we/some/anyone hold onto views and thoughts etc that can be harmful, ridiculous, dangerous and all sorts of other kinds of wrong. charlie hebdo satirizes many things- radical religious views being one of many and i urge you to take a look at it as a philosopher (i think you said before?) you may really like it or at least appreciate it as it provokes deeper thinking about current events, etc.

ok. now the part about kneeling, was relating to the pressure/threats put on them by various groups who threatened journalists, the publication, etc.
meaning, he would prefer to continue to express and question rather than cowtow (sp?) to brute force and threats. i personally have a lot of respect for all who worked there in not bowing down to threats and continuing to exercise their freedom of speech against oppression, violence and the like. playing with fire is exactly what needs to be done sometimes- especially when dealing with groups who seek to silence people by fear, violence and threats. he was well aware of the threats, he had a bodyguard and he knew his work was greater and more important than he himself was.

personally, i have only respect for those who choose to open up and speak, question and keep going in the face of threats. these are usually the moments when it is most needed.
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The names and photos of the 3 suspects are circulating now on Internet and some online news sites like Huffingtonpost.fr

The profile of the suspects:
- french-algerian citizenship
- 2 brothers, 32 and 34 years old living in Pantin.
- 1 young student 18years old from Reims area
- the oldest man was in Syria and came back during the summer
- suspects known by french police for other criminal activities
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Cowards indeed..

Young mother let terrorists into Charlie Hebdo building after threat against daughter


Corinne Rey, cartoonist at Charlie Hebdo. (via LinkedIn)

Masked terrorists entered the office building in Paris where they murdered 12 people Wednesday by threatening a young mother and her daughter, she said.

Corinne Rey, a cartoonist for the weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo, says she was forced to enter the security code after returning from picking up her child at daycare, according to a local report.

“I just went to get my daughter from daycare. As I got to the front door of the building, two masked, armed gunmen brutally threatened us,” she told L'Humanité. “They wanted to enter, go up. I typed the code.”

Rey, who goes by “Coco,” said she hid under a desk while the gunmen shot and killed a dozen staffers inside the office.

While crouched down on the ground, she saw the men kill fellow cartoonists Georges Wolinski and Jean Cabut, the French paper reported.

"They shot Wolinski and Cabut," she said. "It lasted five minutes.”

The terrorists, claiming to be with al-Qaida, spoke fluent, unaccented French, according to Rey.

The Charlie Hebdo newspaper regularly satirizes religious and political figures.

Terrorists have threatened the publication’s staff with violence numerous times for its depictions of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad.

Its offices were firebombed in 2011 after an issue featured a caricature of the prophet on its cover, the Associated Press reported.

Undeterred, Charlie Hebdo published another illustration of Muhammad a year later and a cartoon titled “Still No Attacks in France” featuring a jihadist this week.

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But he did put lives at risk (whether intentionally or not), because those people would quite likely still be alive today if it hadn't been for the magazine publishing (creating?) those cartoons.
So if you create cartoons which are likely to offend someone you should fear for your life?
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Charlie Hebdo attack: 12 killed in Paris

" Charlie Hebdo attack: 12 killed in shooting at Paris satirical magazine that mocked Muslim Prophet Muhammad; trio of suspects, 2 French-born, sought
The shooters, suspected to be two French-born brothers and a third suspect with unknown nationality, are still on the loose after killing two cops and 10 Charlie Hebdo magazine staffers Wednesday. French President François Hollande called the attack an act of terrorism, while President Obama condemned the shooting as 'cowardly' and 'evil.' "
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