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View Poll Results: Had you read Charlie Hebdo before the massacre last week?
Yes, and I thought it was interesting and thought provoking 13 9.70%
Yes, and I thought it was dreadful and offensive 7 5.22%
Yes, but I have opinion either way 6 4.48%
I'd heard of it, but never read it 30 22.39%
Never read it 78 58.21%
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

Never read it, but I don't think you need to have been familiar with it to sympathise or feel outrage at everything the terrorist act and the publication represents.

Adopting this phrase is just a small way of people showing their support, probably the only way they can visibly do it. And undoubtedly, the reaction and use of the phrase has generated a lot of attention both in Europe and importantly the Middle East.

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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Evelyn Beatrice Hall (this statement is often misattributed to Voltaire.)

I hope you all agree with this........
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

Despite the fact that I grew up in Switzerland and that I'm fluent and more at ease with French than my own native language; I've never heard about Charlie Hebdo before August 4th, 1993.

On this date they published this famous cover:




Of course the Belgian public was offended and Belgian newsstands decided to boycott the cover.


8/4/1993

Chirac est triste, le roi des cons est mort "Baudouin m'a légué sa couronne".

=>

Chirac is sad, the king of the morons* (the Belgians) is dead "Baudouin bestowed me his crown".


*: The French and the Dutch always like to depict the Belgians as stupid people... possibly because they have weired French or Dutch accents and expressions...
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Adopting this phrase is just a small way of people showing their support.
Dougal does not believe in the force of symbols, but in the force of action. People with the sign "Je suis Charlie" do believe in the force of symbols - I know, I am one of them. There is no winner, it's not a battle in the first place. I still think that action needs meaning and meaning needs symbols. Simple logic in my book.
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

I'd never heard of it. I don't speak French or go to France much.
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

I wish people would stop wearing those crosses on chains around their necks too.

It's not as if they put their lives on the line and got strung up on a cross too, is it?

I mean, who the hell are they trying to impress?
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Adopting this phrase is just a small way of people showing their support, probably the only way they can visibly do it.
I bought a Charlie Hebdo sticker at Esso yesterday to show my solidarity.

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I wish people would stop wearing those crosses on chains around their necks too.

It's not as if they put their lives on the line and got strung up on a cross too, is it?

I mean, who the hell are they trying to impress?
Dunno. They don't impress me.

Maybe they impress people who carry "Je suis Charlie" placards?
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

Not the magazine itself ,but those cartoons are carried by a lot of other newspaper .I have seen some of theme .Some even made me lough
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

"Lough?"

Is that like when you laugh so hard you start coughing?

(I'll let you use your imagination to figure out what a "lart" is).
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Dougal does not believe in the force of symbols, but in the force of action. People with the sign "Je suis Charlie" do believe in the force of symbols - I know, I am one of them. There is no winner, it's not a battle in the first place. I still think that action needs meaning and meaning needs symbols. Simple logic in my book.

At this march of "I am Charlie" by the world leader ,the should have called out Netanyahu and Abbas and have theme promised to the world .To fixe the problem in Palestine , peaceful and once and for all ,by next week. Would be a nice beginning
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

[QUOTE]"Lough?"

Is that like when you laugh so hard you start coughing?

(I'll let you use your imagination to figure out what a "lart" is). [/QUOTE]
Naughty American ?

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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

What Belgianmum said.
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

I was wondering how many copies of their next edition there will be?

Will it break records.
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I was wondering how many copies of their next edition there will be?

Will it break records.
as an indication: they used to have 300 subscribers per year, and between wednesday and thursday they received 12600 new requests (source Viapresse)
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Dougal does not believe in the force of symbols, but in the force of action. People with the sign "Je suis Charlie" do believe in the force of symbols - I know, I am one of them. There is no winner, it's not a battle in the first place. I still think that action needs meaning and meaning needs symbols. Simple logic in my book.
I guess showing the symbol is in itself an action, no matter how small... not sure what else could be expected from people not in the region of Paris, as I guess for most people it was a bit short notice to hop on the plane to join the vigils.
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"Lough?"

Is that like when you laugh so hard you start coughing?

(I'll let you use your imagination to figure out what a "lart" is).
No it's when he goes on a lake-side holiday in Ireland.
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Re: How many EF members had actually read Charlie Hebdo before this week?

One thing I don't understand is why we all here seem to agree about the value of the freedom of speech, yet I'm not allowed to use the word "f**k" here or change my avatar to a photo of a penis.

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One thing I don't understand is why we all here seem to agree about the value of the freedom of speech, yet I'm not allowed to use the word "f**k" here or change my avatar to a photo of a penis.

Because some people read this forum at work and someone looking over their shoulder may not want to see a picture of a penis?
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One thing I don't understand is why we all here seem to agree about the value of the freedom of speech, yet I'm not allowed to use the word "f**k" here or change my avatar to a photo of a penis.




Good point




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