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Old 25.01.2015, 22:57
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I'm not currently pregnant but also would never entertain sitting in a smoking carriage. Its not my preference.

What about realism ? In the 1950ies and 60ies and even 70ies you often had TWO choices, A) to stay on the Perron for two additional hours or B) to enter a smoking carriage
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Old 25.01.2015, 22:59
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And btw:
It's a good thing you're not prejudiced at all, or else you might have tried some ad hominem play by alluding to peoples nationality
I'm not alluding to anything. Your profile says you're Swiss.

I know enough Swiss people here to know that your attitude to smoking is fairly consistent to theirs. i.e. live and let live.

But, strangely, this noticeable laissez-faire attitude to smoking doesn't carry across to certain other aspects of Swiss living, does it?

If it did, the complaints corner here would be devoid of any threads.

Anyway Urs, don't take that the wrong way. It's merely an observation.
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I neither drink nor smoke, but I find the growing puritanical movement disturbing.

Many smokers look forward to a quiet smoke on their balcony at bedtime or after work or whenever - are we so mean spirited that we'll even deny them that little pleasure?

Miserable bastards.
Why do they have to go outside and huddle underneath someone else's balcony to light up? They can sit back, relax and smoke inside their own homes without any worries about polluting the neighborhood or bothering their neighbors.
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Why do they have to go outside and huddle underneath someone else's balcony to light up? They can sit back, relax and smoke inside their own homes without any worries about polluting the neighborhood or bothering their neighbors.

They do not want to have the smoke in their rooms .....
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Old 25.01.2015, 23:27
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Why do they have to go outside and huddle underneath someone else's balcony to light up? They can sit back, relax and smoke inside their own homes without any worries about polluting the neighborhood or bothering their neighbors.
The same reason I used to enjoy a whiskey sour on my balcony. It's a nice place to sit and wind down.
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Old 25.01.2015, 23:33
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I know enough Swiss people here to know that your attitude to smoking is fairly consistent to theirs. i.e. live and let live.

But, strangely, this noticeable laissez-faire attitude to smoking doesn't carry across to certain other aspects of Swiss living, does it?
It does around here.

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It does around here.

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Shush, Tom. You know Zurich = Switzerland.

The rest of us live in some strange mysterious hinterland of the imagination, where Swiss people are just, like, normal. It's all a dream, Tom. All a dream...
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Shush, Tom. You know Zurich = Switzerland.

The rest of us live in some strange mysterious hinterland of the imagination, where Swiss people are just, like, normal. It's all a dream, Tom. All a dream...

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Why do they have to go outside and huddle underneath someone else's balcony to light up? They can sit back, relax and smoke inside their own homes without any worries about polluting the neighborhood or bothering their neighbors.
That's a good point.

My chain smoking neighbour never ever smokes in his place. His wife doesn't like the smell.

Why can't he tell her to shut the f**k up as it's only a smell and does no harm?

He smokes downwind of their door but upwind of ours so the smoke always comes into our place and due to the design of the place, fills up the kids bedrooms first.

When they complain about the smell, I tell them it will do them no harm and we should be happy that the smoke from our neighbour goes into our place rather than into his own as his wife doesn't like the smell even though passive smoking does no harm.
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That's a good point.

My chain smoking neighbour never ever smokes in his place. His wife doesn't like the smell.

Why can't he tell her to shut the f**k up as it's only a smell and does no harm?

He smokes downwind of their door but upwind of ours so the smoke always comes into our place and due to the design of the place, fills up the kids bedrooms first.

When they complain about the smell, I tell them it will do them no harm and we should be happy that the smoke from our neighbour goes into our place rather than into his own as his wife doesn't like the smell even though passive smoking does no harm.

Don't you have a strong anti-smoke-spray around ? I used it successfully. One such a Smoking neighbour even complained to me about my stinking spray. I told him that I would no longer use the spray when he would stop smoking -- He sadly died two years later, sad as he otherwise was a nice old man.
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The same reason I used to enjoy a whiskey sour on my balcony. It's a nice place to sit and wind down.
That's quite a stretch. Somehow I doubt that all the smokers who are huddled outside in the cold and the rain at this time of year sucking down a cigarette as quickly as possible are doing it because it's a nice place to sit and wind down. They're addicts, it's not about sitting and winding down, no more than "enjoying" a whiskey sour at a tram stop, in a bathroom, at a playground, or during numerous 10 minute breaks during work is.

Somehow I'm sure you're perfectly aware of the fact that plenty of smokers do not smoke indoors nowadays for various reasons, no limited to stinking up and damaging belongings, bothering a non-smoking family member, or maybe they just have kids and have enough common sense not to expose kids to smoke all day long....
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That's a good point.

My chain smoking neighbour never ever smokes in his place. His wife doesn't like the smell.

Why can't he tell her to shut the f**k up as it's only a smell and does no harm?

He smokes downwind of their door but upwind of ours so the smoke always comes into our place and due to the design of the place, fills up the kids bedrooms first.

When they complain about the smell, I tell them it will do them no harm and we should be happy that the smoke from our neighbour goes into our place rather than into his own as his wife doesn't like the smell even though passive smoking does no harm.
Talk to this neighbour, tell him what's bothering you. It's perfectly legal he's smoking there but am sure he'll change his habits once you tell him how much it bothers you and your kids!. Can't think of any reason you didn't tell him anything by now.

PS Don't use the anti-smoke spray Wolli is suggesting, that is purely passive-aggressive behaviour that people from other cultures are less likely to respond to. Appeal to their good heart and conscience, it works wonders.
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They do not want to have the smoke in their rooms .....
Are you suggesting that smokers are selfish?
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That's quite a stretch. Somehow I doubt that all the smokers who are huddled outside in the cold and the rain at this time of year sucking down a cigarette as quickly as possible are doing it because it's a nice place to sit and wind down. They're addicts, it's not about sitting and winding down, no more than "enjoying" a whiskey sour at a tram stop, in a bathroom, at a playground, or during numerous 10 minute breaks during work is.

Somehow I'm sure you're perfectly aware of the fact that plenty of smokers do not smoke indoors nowadays for various reasons, no limited to stinking up and damaging belongings, bothering a non-smoking family member, or maybe they just have kids and have enough common sense not to expose kids to smoke all day long....
To be honest, I don't give it a lot of thought as it really isn't any of my business, along with drinking wine, using speed or enjoying s&m. It's just one of those things other people do which simply isn't any concern of mine.

Seriously, some of you have some real control issues you might want to consider addressing.
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Re: Smokers in Germany

Well back to the original post that started this. A court in Germany imposed some time schedules for when smoking is and isn't allowed on the balcony. It's seems to me to be a reasonable solution so that everyone can have their enjoyments. The smokers can still go outside and relax on their balcony and the neighbors above know what times the windows need to be closed and then alternately when the no smoking times are in force can go outside and enjoy their time on their balcony. Some people are not bothered by smoke, some are.

As far as I'm concerned the best way around this is to live in a single family house without neighbors but not everyone can do so.
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Talk to this neighbour, tell him what's bothering you. It's perfectly legal he's smoking there but am sure he'll change his habits once you tell him how much it bothers you and your kids!. Can't think of any reason you didn't tell him anything by now.
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No. It's his right. You ask Dougals Breakfast if you don't believe me. It's none of my business but I have a right to rant on here just as DB has a right to rant and rave about me ranting.

Anyway, as someone else wrote - these people are addicts. They need their fixes every ten minutes or so.


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Appeal to their good heart and conscience, it works wonders.
He doesn't have a good heart. All the other neighbours can't stand him.
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To be honest, I don't give it a lot of thought as it really isn't any of my business, along with drinking wine, using speed or enjoying s&m. It's just one of those things other people do which simply isn't any concern of mine.

Seriously, some of you have some real control issues you might want to consider addressing.
If I recall other threads correctly, you recently had a child. How would you react if someone sat next to your kid and lit up a smoke?
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As far as I'm concerned the best way around this is to live in a single family house without neighbors but not everyone can do so.
Or start having neighbourhoods for smokers and neighbourhoods for non smokers.

then each side could start painting murals to express what they think of the other side.

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If I recall other threads correctly, you recently had a child. How would you react if someone sat next to your kid and lit up a smoke?
Wouldn't bother me in the least.

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