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Old 26.01.2015, 15:10
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That's a good point.

My chain smoking neighbour never ever smokes in his place. His wife doesn't like the smell.

Why can't he tell her to shut the f**k up as it's only a smell and does no harm?

He smokes downwind of their door but upwind of ours so the smoke always comes into our place and due to the design of the place, fills up the kids bedrooms first.

When they complain about the smell, I tell them it will do them no harm and we should be happy that the smoke from our neighbour goes into our place rather than into his own as his wife doesn't like the smell even though passive smoking does no harm.
Hello, if your neighbour's chain smoking habit is really disturbing you and your family to such a major extent, then I seriously suggest you to take the matter up with your neighbour(s). I've actually read all your posts on this topic and it seems this non-stop passive smoke ingress is controlling your entire life, whether you are inside or outside your premises. If something would disturb me that much I would do something about it.
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No. It's his right. You ask Dougals Breakfast if you don't believe me. It's none of my business but I have a right to rant on here just as DB has a right to rant and rave about me ranting.

Anyway, as someone else wrote - these people are addicts. They need their fixes every ten minutes or so.

He doesn't have a good heart. All the other neighbours can't stand him.
Yes, of course smokers are addicts!

They are addicted to something that is more difficult to give up than heroine (according to some reports). At least with stuff like heroine there are centres/clinics they can go to for de-tox. There`s nothing for addicts of nicotine - except their own self-will.
So maybe a bit of sympathy for them?

Actually there is nothing worse - I`ve found - than virulent anti-smokers.
They go off worse than, or similar to, religious fanatics.

And in that same vein - your comment above about the sort of "heart" someone has ........ you have NO idea what is in anothers heart!
So you side with the neighbors who don`t like the person - and judge him by the collective standard?

What about wondering what IS in the old mans heart?

Perhaps he sits outside his house smoking alone because he and his old buddies "Stammtisch" is now a non-smoking zone and they all now have nowhere else to gather as they`ve done all their lives?
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Old 26.01.2015, 15:22
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Hello, if your neighbour's chain smoking habit is really disturbing you and your family to such a major extent, then I seriously suggest you to take the matter up with your neighbour(s). I've actually read all your posts on this topic and it seems this non-stop passive smoke ingress is controlling your entire life, whether you are inside or outside your premises. If something would disturb me that much I would do something about it.
No. It doesn't bother me that much in real life.

This is an internet forum to waste a few minutes here and there over a coffee.

My attitude seems to rile certain forum members though but they it also does on the homeopathy threads too.

Thanks for reading my posts though.
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Old 26.01.2015, 15:34
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... How would you react if someone sat next to your kid and lit up a smoke?
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Wouldn't bother me in the least.

Tom
Tom, I seem to recall on another thread that you said all your children smoked.

Perhaps it was that fantastic attitude to smoking that you have that helped them along the way? (Like you're almost proud of it).

Well done you!

(Well it's not as if you don't speak your mind on this forum, is it?)
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Old 26.01.2015, 15:40
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At least with stuff like heroine there are centres/clinics they can go to for de-tox. There`s nothing for addicts of nicotine - except their own self-will.
You mean apart from nicotine patches, chewing gum, sprays, e-cigs, quit smoking groups, medical assistance and hypnotherapy?

Yea, what have the Romans done for us?
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Old 26.01.2015, 15:44
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What about wondering what IS in the old mans heart?

Perhaps he sits outside his house smoking alone because he and his old buddies "Stammtisch" is now a non-smoking zone and they all now have nowhere else to gather as they`ve done all their lives?
You've conjured up an image that's breaking your heart.

He's not an old man. He's much younger than me, and with a family.

He sits outside alone as it's a lot less bother than doing anything else.
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Old 26.01.2015, 15:58
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You mean apart from nicotine patches, chewing gum, sprays, e-cigs, quit smoking groups, medical assistance and hypnotherapy?

Yea, what have the Romans done for us?

They introduced crucifixion..... now, that was a sure-fire cure for smoking.
Haven't tried it yet for myself, though.

Some day soon
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:08
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If I recall other threads correctly, you recently had a child. How would you react if someone sat next to your kid and lit up a smoke?
I'd move.


That was easy. Next question?
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:27
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I'd move.


That was easy. Next question?
...and when moving isn't an option?
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:35
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...and when moving isn't an option?
And when is that ever likely to be the case?


If I was locked in an airtight box with my children and a chain smoker and if the smoke was disturbing my children and there was simply no way we could just put up with it for a few minutes, then I might consider asking him to possibly wait a bit to light up.


Otherwise, a few wafts of smoke aren't going to do me or my kids any major harm.
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:35
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I'd move.


That was easy. Next question?
I did that once on a platform with a two-week year old child when someone started smoking in his face.

I moved to the other end of the platform as there was nobody there and people were smoking everywhere else
I sat on a bench. Someone came and sat on the bench next to me and lit up.

I explained that I had moved there as it was the only place on the platform where no-one was smoking and I had a newborn baby with me.
He looked at me and said, "It's my right to smoke here and so I will".

On this thread you're so indignant when people complain about smokers and their rights but I don't take that view. Most of them are complete selfish w**kers.
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:39
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I did that once on a platform with a two-week year old child when someone started smoking in his face.

I moved to the other end of the platform as there was nobody there and people were smoking everywhere else
I sat on a bench. Someone came and sat on the bench next to me and lit up.

I explained that I had moved there as it was the only place on the platform where no-one was smoking and I had a newborn baby with me.
He looked at me and said, "It's my right to smoke here and so I will".

On this thread you're so indignant when people complain about smokers and their rights but I don't take that view. Most of them are complete selfish w**kers.

You don't half attract bad luck, don't you?
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:48
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You don't half attract bad luck, don't you?
Not really. It's just there are a lot of self-righteousness smokers here.

At a primary school sports event that my wife helped organise, they were setting out the tables for the childrens' break and the leader of the Elternrad started putting ashtrays on all the tables.

She explained that it was the right of adults to smoke -and some of the parents may want to do that so the ashtrays were staying.
Most parents were happy to smoke around the corner but the leader chain-smoked a the table where and whilst the young children were eating.

The headmaster thought she had a terrible attitude but he was powerless to intervene he said. It was the law.
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And when is that ever likely to be the case?


If I was locked in an airtight box with my children and a chain smoker and if the smoke was disturbing my children and there was simply no way we could just put up with it for a few minutes, then I might consider asking him to possibly wait a bit to light up.


Otherwise, a few wafts of smoke aren't going to do me or my kids any major harm.

So, if someone sat next to your child and lit a smoke, would you ignore it? Move? Ask them kindly to move?
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Old 26.01.2015, 16:51
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Not really. It's just there are a lot of self-righteousness smokers here.

How come I've never met any?


Perhaps you invite self-righteous responses from people?
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So, if someone sat next to your child and lit a smoke, would you ignore it? Move? Ask them kindly to move?
I'd most likely ignore it. A few puffs of smoke from a cigarette aren't going to do much harm.


And if my children were upset by the smoke, we'd move.


I'm really struggling to see the problem here.
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How come I've never met any?


Perhaps you invite self-righteous responses from people?
Did you even read my post about the railway platform?

What would you have done there? Walked away (again) or stayed and said something?

In most post about the primary school sports event, I didn't say or do anything.
So how did I invite a self-righteous response in that case?

Do you always let people walk all over you?
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Do you always let people walk all over you?

No, I have a sense of perspective.


I wouldn't take my children into a raucherlokal, but I'm not going to wet myself over a couple of wafts of smoke from some poor sod waiting for his train.
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Old 26.01.2015, 17:02
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No, I have a sense of perspective.


I wouldn't take my children into a raucherlokal, but I'm not going to wet myself over a couple of wafts of smoke from some poor sod waiting for his train.
It wasn't a couple of wafts. The bloke was smoking inches from the newborn's face. And he sat next to me.

I had already moved two or three times.


As I said, do you always let people walk all over you?
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It wasn't a couple of wafts. The bloke was smoking inches from the newborn's face. And he sat next to me.

I had already moved two or three times.


As I said, do you always let people walk all over you?

Are you always such a drama queen?


You should visit the real world from time to time, mate. It might be a revelation for you.
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