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Old 26.02.2015, 17:25
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Yeah, true.

The Obama libtards attributed terrorism to joblessness. But the fact of the matter is that most terrorists have come from affluent background, well educated, often with some wealth and influence. They must have thought of the Middle East as some urban ghetto or something. But no, this kind of terrorism isn't about jobs.
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Old 26.02.2015, 17:31
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Do you have any evidence for this? Sounds an interesting theory.
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Old 26.02.2015, 17:43
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Yeah, true.

The Obama libtards attributed terrorism to joblessness. But the fact of the matter is that most terrorists have come from affluent background, well educated, often with some wealth and influence. They must have thought of the Middle East as some urban ghetto or something. But no, this kind of terrorism isn't about jobs.
Oh, sure it's about jobs.

Just not the terrorists' jobs.
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Old 26.02.2015, 17:49
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Do you have any evidence for this? Sounds an interesting theory.
Evidence of the Obama Regime's Libtardness, or the socio-economic profile of terrorists?

Marie Harf interview regarding jobs for terrorists, and OBL's family fortune. Stuff like that.
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Old 26.02.2015, 18:39
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

OK, but you can't just take someone's interview as gospel, do you have the underlying stats she used?

Also, you do yourself no favours with the childish name calling of Obama, not sure what you are hoping to achieve there.

Also, Bin Laden was one person, not sure his estranged family's fortune is representative of anything. I'm pretty sure most people under Osama were recruited from poor villages in the countryside around him.
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Old 26.02.2015, 21:13
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Marie Harf is a spokesman for Obama and is professionally hired to voice Obama's position. Not much statistics needed there. As for the other terrorists;al-Zawahiri is a surgeon; 9/11 terrorists were educated or professionals, OBL was an engineer, and most of the others that hit the news. They were mostly smart, educated and rich. They weren't goat herders for sure.

Just reading about Jihadi John, for example:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...6ee_story.html
But his real name, according to friends and others familiar with his case, is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a well-to-do family who grew up in West London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming.

This illustrates either how misguided and out of touch Obama is, or how far he is trying to deceive and misguide his inferior fellow men.

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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

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OK, but you can't just take someone's interview as gospel, do you have the underlying stats she used?

Also, you do yourself no favours with the childish name calling of Obama, not sure what you are hoping to achieve there.

Also, Bin Laden was one person, not sure his estranged family's fortune is representative of anything. I'm pretty sure most people under Osama were recruited from poor villages in the countryside around him.
You're trying to have have a reasoned and rational debate with Phos? Surely you've been a member long enough to know better than that.
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Old 27.02.2015, 08:40
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... Not much statistics needed there...
Yup, thought so.

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You're trying to have have a reasoned and rational debate with Phos? Surely you've been a member long enough to know better than that.
Good point, well made.
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Old 28.02.2015, 01:01
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Oh, Jihadi John was a beautiful and gentle boy, compelled to behead by MI5, by their questioning. Poor victim. And don't ask too many direct questions of others either, because it is Islamophobic, so Sky News finds out:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10073785.html

Poor guy in interview experienced cognitive dissonance, not knowing whether he was speaking to Western media, or to fellow Muslims supportive of Jihad.

I don't think a job can reform these guys, folks. They aren't naive 6 year olds. They make up their own minds for what they do with their own lives.
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Old 28.02.2015, 01:46
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Interview a pig and you'll get a grunt.

These twats get way too much airtime.
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Old 28.02.2015, 02:04
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

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OK, but you can't just take someone's interview as gospel, do you have the underlying stats she used?

Also, you do yourself no favours with the childish name calling of Obama, not sure what you are hoping to achieve there.

Also, Bin Laden was one person, not sure his estranged family's fortune is representative of anything. I'm pretty sure most people under Osama were recruited from poor villages in the countryside around him.
About "I'm pretty sure most people under Osama were recruited from poor villages in the countryside around him"
Do you have the underlying stats to support your views?

As others have posted, OBL's circle were mostly rich and well educated but if you have a source for the "poor villagers theory" then please do share it.
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Old 28.02.2015, 16:36
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Fair point, but I said I'm pretty sure, not you should also believe this.

This is purely based on the fact that most people who do this are in some way disenfranchised from society and generally that is people who have nothing, not people driving around in Bentleys.
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Old 28.02.2015, 16:51
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Fair point, but I said I'm pretty sure, not you should also believe this.

This is purely based on the fact that most people who do this are in some way disenfranchised from society and generally that is people who have nothing, not people driving around in Bentleys.
I would say that one of the key things about religion is that it can make a cruel fanatic out of anyone, rich or poor.
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Old 28.02.2015, 20:13
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Fair point, but I said I'm pretty sure, not you should also believe this.

This is purely based on the fact that most people who do this are in some way disenfranchised from society and generally that is people who have nothing, not people driving around in Bentleys.
I know people who drive Bentleys and feel like they are not part of general society. Quite common, in fact, its often the reason why they chose to drive Bentleys.

So we have heard how many Muslims in the West lament how society marginalizes and disenfranchises them. Yet isn't it already taught in mosques that Muslims are different from non-Muslims? Any wonder about the source of this feeling of alienation and disenfranchisement? Is it really the fault of non-Muslims? Everyone goes out of they way, and bends over backwards to get along with others, no matter their race, religion, or sexual orientation. And this is still not enough?

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Old 28.02.2015, 22:28
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I know people who drive Bentleys and feel like they are not part of general society. Quite common, in fact, its often the reason why they chose to drive Bentleys.
Exactly, you are affirming my point.

They are quite happy coasting along in their own echelon but do not feel disenfranchised, in fact it would be almost impossible for them to feel disenfranchised. They have no reason to join a extremist cause.

Richdog, yes, religion does indeed do this, but Bin Laden aside, you don't see many people abandoning a fortune to go jihadding about the place, usually the oligarchs of this world toe the line to pay lip service to religion without any real desire to be constrained by it.
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I know people who drive Bentleys and feel like they are not part of general society. Quite common, in fact, its often the reason why they chose to drive Bentleys.

So we have heard how many Muslims in the West lament how society marginalizes and disenfranchises them. Yet isn't it already taught in mosques that Muslims are different from non-Muslims? Any wonder about the source of this feeling of alienation and disenfranchisement? Is it really the fault of non-Muslims? Everyone goes out of they way, and bends over backwards to get along with others, no matter their race, religion, or sexual orientation. And this is still not enough?

In reality, only few Muslims in the West lament, or feel disenfranchises or marginalised. I do not really see where you get your weird understandings from
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Old 01.03.2015, 12:06
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Re: Muslim terrorists to get state jobs and free shrinks if they decide to leave ISIS

Look, poverty is not the driver of terrorism. Most documented terrorists are from affluent and educate backgrounds, from billionaires to surgeons, to engineers. This is disproportionate to the economic make-up of that demographics. Such disenfranchisement is not caused by economic or systematic policy in the West, it is self ostricization inflicted on such said Muslims on themselves, through their own belief systems.
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Old 02.03.2015, 09:55
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Most documented terrorists are from affluent and educate backgrounds...
Well obviously. People from horrifically poor backwaters aren't documented, are they? Glad to have clarified.
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Old 02.03.2015, 10:35
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Well obviously. People from horrifically poor backwaters aren't documented, are they? Glad to have clarified.
Oh, right, and then there are many who receive welfare checks from the very country they attack. But terrorist do cover the whole range of net worth, and the higher end have more representation in comparison to the population.

Did you need an article or link that shows terrorists by economic class? I believe there are also some studies around, and some articles as well. This should be easily googled. Give it a try.
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Old 02.03.2015, 11:39
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Did you need an article or link that shows terrorists by economic class? I believe there are also some studies around, and some articles as well. This should be easily googled. Give it a try.
Perhaps YOU would do me the service of googling and providing evidence for claims YOU made. I think that's how it's meant to work.
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