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Welcome to the real world: "Media" is businesses with people who have jobs and want to make money. They do not show you what is right, but what sells papers. Don't blame them for the selection - they base it on experience. If anyone blame it on the average reader as that is what he is willing to pay for.

I do not think it takes any "skillful manipulation" at all - every single act of terrorism the world over gets far too much coverage as it is the sort of story that generates cash. Nobody wants to hear that the number one cause of death is heart disease and we should all eat better instead of being scared of terrorists...


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I am a bit irritated. Lots of People on this Forum are either in the finance sector or working for that, and talk about "market" throughout the day, but tend to ignore that the media is also subject to the market, the market which consists of the People


and here a bit more of the RJAF Pilot, the fallen hero

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/mi...age/index.html


to assassinate the son of a leading Jordanian Family is a guarantee for drastic retaliation



http://jordantimes.com/jordan-lost-o...-prince-hassan


As you can see HERE


http://www.lorientlejour.com/article...jordanien.html


the Hashemite King only in Jordan can sign execution orders and attack orders for the RJAF, but I am sure that Prince HAssan already did the needed preparations


The Uncle of the King, Prince Hassan, is the crisis Manager of the Hashemite Kingdom. If he appears, things are to become rough. And he is reputed to favour rough tactics


The executions have STARTED


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/03/wo...ive/index.html

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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

Two prisoners hanged this morning in Jordan, one if them the failed female suicide bomber.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31124900
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Old 04.02.2015, 09:24
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

An eye for an eye. You should see some of the photos coming out of the recently liberated Kobane of how the Kurds are dealing with their IS prisoners. Not much difference between the two really. Although I guess IS started it.
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Old 04.02.2015, 10:28
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

Seems like EF's Old Testament Chapter is up posting early today.

Death. Great to discuss when it doesn't involve people you know, people who are close to your heart or friends of friends. Death. That catalyst for most movies that anyone seems to make these days. Sanitized death. Screen friendly death. Death for kids killing other kids. Death for teenagers. Or your daily commute delayed because someone jumped in front of a train. What an inconvenience. Your media world is so splattered with fictional and real deaths that you feel numb to even piles of corpses black with flies. Because in your real world you'll hardly ever see a dead person, let alone the tens of thousands of simulated or real deaths portrayed in the media or in documentaries.

IS execute F-16 pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh in a brutally sadistic way. Now you don't get to see fiery caged deaths on your usual CSI Miami series, so the public outcry is huge. Jordan plays prosecutor, judge and executioner and self-avenges their pilot's death. And on it will go. More death. And IS will use their hostages to stage even more shocking deaths. Because they can. They're wrong, but so are the others.

America burns it's prisoners too. Strapping someone to an electric chair and throwing the switch isn't what you could God-fearingly call a "quick end". The death row inmate burns from the inside out. And all that remains is another avenged death.

So if you really think you're on the "better side" of this awful war of pseudo-religious might, think again. Our marketing is slicker and we make more money in selling death and do an awesome job of marketing the results.
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

I grew up in a city with suicide bombers. I have seen corpses on the street as a child and even a few years ago last time i visited my hometown. I went to school with a boy who was always bragging about how normal it is for him to see beheadings. This News is Music to my ears.
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:29
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

Would suppressing media reports decrease or increase these events?

I'm somewhat relieved to see Arab outrage over a murder like this for a change. Would like to see the same reactions in Pakistan and Nigeria after massacres. This has just gone on way too long.
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:30
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

One of the questions everyone should be asking, is where are these guys getting there weapons from, ok, they could have looted some, but someone is supplying them RPG's, Guns, Bullets, 50mm rounds etc etc all of these have serial numbers on, and can be traced back to the original purchaser.

Any looted ammo would have run out months ago given how much these guys like to fight. Something very fishy with all of this
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:38
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Would suppressing media reports decrease or increase these events?
Decrease.

Terrorism is not about killing people, it's about spreading terror. The media is the multiplier in this equation - if you take them out are the only ones terrorized the people who witnessed an attack.

Why did ISIS kill the pilot in this terrible way? To terrorize the enemy soldiers. If this was not broadcasted to the world would the other soldiers not see it...
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

Western governments have acknowledged taking the measures of arming the "moderates". Except "moderate" is a temporal term, and many have been known to switch to ISIS.

But I know what you folks are getting at. Obama, or his policies, appear to have nurtured all this ever since the fall of Mursi and Libya. It can look like Obama's Arab Spring generation. But I've also seen clouds in the sky that look like bunny rabbits and elephants.
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

These people are cowards who only find strength in numbers(Money) and in the knowledge that if they get caught, they still have their human rights and will be persecuted in due process. Well, what if ist time to take away those rights since they bow to no laws at all anyway. Its their turn to be afraid.
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

an eye for an eye works really well dontcha think?

While the west if overthrowing leaders and bombing the crap out of villagers day in day out then in there minds they have the perfect right to do whatever the hell they like to whoever they like, lets not forget the pilot was captured while bombing the crap out of them.

If its ok for 'us' to kill indiscriminately (via drones and big ass bombs) then why is it not ok for them?
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One of the questions everyone should be asking, is where are these guys getting there weapons from, ok, they could have looted some, but someone is supplying them RPG's, Guns, Bullets, 50mm rounds etc etc all of these have serial numbers on, and can be traced back to the original purchaser.

Any looted ammo would have run out months ago given how much these guys like to fight. Something very fishy with all of this

Oh, that´s an easy one: Saudi fucging Arabia. Pakistan, Kuwait, take your pick.
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lol I know it's an easy one, but why isn't it being reported?? its all just one big game
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an eye for an eye works really well dontcha think?

While the west if overthrowing leaders and bombing the crap out of villagers day in day out then in there minds they have the perfect right to do whatever the hell they like to whoever they like, lets not forget the pilot was captured while bombing the crap out of them.

If its ok for 'us' to kill indiscriminately (via drones and big ass bombs) then why is it not ok for them?
Bombing of ISIS only started in retaliation to beheadings. Targets are military. It's not World War 2 or Vietnam, they don't just go around carpet bombing indiscriminately.
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I'm somewhat relieved to see Arab outrage over a murder like this for a change. Would like to see the same reactions in Pakistan and Nigeria after massacres.

Read a lot of Pakistani and Nigerian newspapers, do you?
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Bombing of ISIS only started in retaliation to beheadings. Targets are military. It's not World War 2 or Vietnam, they don't just go around carpet bombing indiscriminately.
ISIS didn't just appear one day out of nowhere, and I'm sure all those poor villagers who get bombed day in day out would disagree with you about indiscriminately

who decides what a military target is? ah yes, the guy thousands of miles away watching on a monitor. And given this guy was a pilot then you can argue he was a military target.
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Bombing of ISIS only started in retaliation to beheadings. Targets are military. It's not World War 2 or Vietnam, they don't just go around carpet bombing indiscriminately.

How do you know?


That's a genuine question, by the way. I have no idea what is being bombed in Iraq, so I'm curious how anybody else would know.
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ISIS didn't just appear one day out of nowhere, and I'm sure all those poor villagers who get bombed day in day out would disagree with you about indiscriminately

who decides what a military target is? ah yes, the guy thousands of miles away watching on a monitor. And given this guy was a pilot then you can argue he was a military target.
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How do you know?


That's a genuine question, by the way. I have no idea what is being bombed in Iraq, so I'm curious how anybody else would know.
Intelligence is gathered from people on the ground and drones in the air. From this intelligence targets are selected and hit using precision guided weapons. This is a far cry from "bombing indiscriminately".

I'm sure the Yazidis are willing to see a few buildings in their villages flattened in order to prevent forced conversion, genocide of their people and abduction of their women.
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Intelligence is gathered from people on the ground and drones in the air. From this intelligence targets are selected and hit using precision guided weapons. This is a far cry from "bombing indiscriminately".

Yeah, but how do you know that this is what is happening in Iraq?


Again, a genuine question. All I have to go on is press releases and news reports. I've never been to Iraq and have no real idea of what is actually happening there. Do you?
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Intelligence is gathered from people on the ground and drones in the air. From this intelligence targets are selected and hit using precision guided weapons. This is a far cry from "bombing indiscriminately".

I'm sure the Yazidis are willing to see a few buildings in their villages flattened in order to prevent forced conversion, genocide of their people and abduction of their women.

you believe this? do you also believe in WMD's? the tooth fairy, santa??

The same people who told the world Sadam had WMD's are the same people telling you they only target terrorists, so if this is the case why are so many locals joining up with these terrorists??

the story just doesn't add up
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