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Old 04.02.2015, 22:40
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I think it was Dante who wrote, "“The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”.
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Old 04.02.2015, 22:47
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I think it was Dante who wrote, "“The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”.
He's not known for his fairness, but be assured : "The Devil looks after his own".
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Old 04.02.2015, 22:50
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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

I don't know if anyone has any moral doubts about ISIS, but here is the most respected Islamic institution, Al-Azhar:
Top Muslim body calls for 'killing, crucifixion' of IS militants

Nuff said?
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Old 04.02.2015, 23:32
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I don't know if anyone has any moral doubts about ISIS, but here is the most respected Islamic institution, Al-Azhar:
Top Muslim body calls for 'killing, crucifixion' of IS militants

Nuff said?
Didn't you use to be a Christian?
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Old 04.02.2015, 23:36
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Fox news are loving this. There is the video of the burning on their website
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Old 04.02.2015, 23:48
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Fox news are loving this. There is the video of the burning on their website
With full commentary from their Jordan 'Expert'

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Old 05.02.2015, 00:00
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Didn't you use to be a Christian?
No, I have always been a Christian. Castro thinks I'm a member of Westboro Church. Why get personal?
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Old 05.02.2015, 02:46
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The atrocities of Isis is just a prelude to what will happen once Iran obtains nuclear power .....
I'm sorry but you're nothing more than an idiot troll!
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Didn't Saddam have chemical weapons, and aren't chemical weapons WMDs? Also, Iran invaded Iraq, no? And they have stated their objective of attacking Israel.

Yeah, it is quite a peaceful region if you ignore all these, and don't even bother looking at it.




Iran going nuclear will mean also mean Sunni states going nuclear.

The nice thing about Saddam is that there was only one ego to soothe. Without Saddam, there is nothing to soothe. By the way, we actually thought we were doing the Iraqis a favor.

If Iran really gets nuclear weapons, also the Arab countries, at least the Major ones, will move towards the stuff.
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Old 05.02.2015, 07:27
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By the way, we actually thought we were doing the Iraqis a favor.
Well, you also thought you are doing the Afghans a favour. And the Vietnamese... and the rest of the world tour...
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No, I have always been a Christian. Castro thinks I'm a member of Westboro Church. Why get personal?
Just curious as to why you'd consider a Muslim cleric to be a moral authority, that's all.
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Old 05.02.2015, 09:49
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Just curious as to why you'd consider a Muslim cleric to be a moral authority, that's all.
I don't, Muslims do.



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Well, you also thought you are doing the Afghans a favour. And the Vietnamese... and the rest of the world tour...
As I recall, the key points of persuasion were:
Vietnam - To halt the Red Menace.
Afghanistan - They harbored International (9/11) terrorists.
Iraq - He gassed his own people.

None of which is false.



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If Iran really gets nuclear weapons, also the Arab countries, at least the Major ones, will move towards the stuff.
Egypt, for sure. Turkey is said to have about 70 NATO warheads. The intensity of the hate, rage and violence of Jihadists indicate they would be thrilled to use a nuclear weapon if they were to get their hands on one. I don't think we would see detente in the region, and mutual agreed destruction would not deter those who are trying to force their way into the afterlife.

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Re: Jordan to execute ISIS prisoners condemned to death, unless ...

Given what proof? its not hard to make a very nasty dirty bomb, Iran has that ability now, it not hard to make very very nasty chemical weapons that arguably would cause more suffering then a small nuclear device, and just about everyone in the region has the ability to do that, most high school chemistry teacher could knock one together, The whole reason 'we' went to war with Iraq was over this if fact 'we' went into syria to pick up there stock piles of these to stop them getting into the 'wrong' hand, so most if not all of the countries have access (or could make them easily) to WMD and use them, yet none of them have*

*yes I know Saddam gassed the Kurds
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As I recall, the key point of persuasions were:
Vietnam - To halt the Red Menace.
Afghanistan - They harbored International (9/11) terrorists.
Iraq - He gassed his own people.

None of which is false.

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Old 05.02.2015, 10:27
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Proof? I can't think of any war that is based on logic. Persuasions and motivations for war are normally emotional, not logical. Perhaps in the strategy, logistics, tactics, and the pragmatism the opportunity offers you mind find logic. But wars normally indicate a break down in the flow of reason between parties.
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Where is he now? and talk is cheap

Really ? And Hitler's talk was also cheap ? Don't words whether spoken or written have far reaching consequences ?


Throughout history ignorance has always been a danger for mankind, add to it apathy and appeasement with the enemy and you'll have destruction and death.
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Proof? I can't think of any war that is based on logic. Persuasions and motivations for war are normally emotional, not logical. Perhaps in the strategy, logistics, tactics, and the pragmatism the opportunity offers you mind find logic. But wars normally indicate a break down in the flow of reason between parties.
The Iraq war wasn't exactly a war of passion, it was a strategic operation cooked up in the bowels of Washington to replace a regime; Which incidentally provided a bulwark to the spread of Al Queda in the region.
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Really ? And Hitler's talk was also cheap ? Don't words whether spoken or written have far reaching consequences ?
Dude - the moment you try and use Hitler as a basis for an extremely tangential opinion in a thread about current affairs in the Middle East any rather fragile (or non-existent) credibility that you thought you might have had, just flew off into orbit towards a black hole just beyond Uranus.
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Really ? And Hitler's talk was also cheap ? Don't words whether spoken or written have far reaching consequences ?


Throughout history ignorance has always been a danger for mankind, add to it apathy and appeasement with the enemy and you'll have destruction and death.
Who is the President now?
Hint: A far more reasonable man

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The Iraq war wasn't exactly a war of passion, it was a strategic operation cooked up in the bowels of Washington to replace a regime; Which incidentally provided a bulwark to the spread of Al Queda in the region.
I would largely agree with that. Bush Sr. did not want to topple Saddam knowing the vacuum it would create would lead to what we now have. GWB's neoconservatives along with the Saudis attempted a geopolitical re-engineering gambit.

The impression I got for what drove them to topple Saddam was when Saddam started to mischievously toggling the oil spigot on and off, causing prices to fluctuate. Saddam wanted to demonstrate that he still had power to rock the boat even under sanctions. This had the potential to cause problems with the global economy, and the Energy cabal did not like having their business being messed with. Mind you, ALL world governments are in the business of oil. All individuals are in the economy of oil in one way or another.

But they still needed to stoke the public apetite for it. Casting Saddam as a murderous villain was easy, because he was one.
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