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Conservatives win outright majority 1 3.13%
Labour win outright majority 1 3.13%
Hung parliament; Conservatives able to form a government 15 46.88%
Hung parliament; Labour able to form a government 4 12.50%
Chaos / no party able to form stable govt 8 25.00%
No idea / too unpredictable 3 9.38%
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Re: UK General Election 2015: May 7 (poll)

Uk£ is rising steadily vs the CHF this week so somebody thinks the Tories will win. Or it is just a side effect of the CHF tracking the euro down to the cellars.

Seems to be a new trend in UK of politicians offering ever more inducements that lack any credibility that they will be introduced or paid for.
Probably finish up like the Scottish vote and the result will look nothing like the publicised voter survey forecasts.
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Re: UK General Election 2015: May 7 (poll)

So Russell Brand has come out today telling us all to vote Labour. I doubt this will have much effect as up until yesterday he was telling everyone not to vote at all and it's too late to register now.

This excellent article in the Telegraph reflects quite well my view on modern Britain. None of them are really worth voting for.
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Comedy tonight on UK TV, Channel 4, at 11 pm Swiss time

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None of them are really worth voting for.
They never were.
The rich getting richer and the poor, poorer and the growing inequality between the top 1% and the bottom, say, 90% is here to stay for good. And it is not just so in Britain.

About the elections I think that a coalition headed by Labour and helped greatly by SNP might make it through.
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So Russell Brand has come out today telling us all to vote Labour. I doubt this will have much effect as up until yesterday he was telling everyone not to vote at all and it's too late to register now.

This excellent article in the Telegraph reflects quite well my view on modern Britain. None of them are really worth voting for.
So has Delia Smith: (TV Chef and Luton FB supporter):



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Pledge: Delia Smith and her mother Etty Smith have pledged their allegiance to Labour Party in the May 2015 elections Cookery legend Delia Smith has made a fervent plea to voters – back Labour to save the NHS from “grave danger”.
She warns that another Tory government would be a “recipe for disaster” for the health service.
Writing exclusively for the Daily Mirror, Britain’s bestselling cookery author says the country cannot afford to see the NHS privatised or “run like a supermarket.”
She tells how her mother Etty, now aged 96, lost her 18-month old brother because the family could not afford to send for a doctor to treat his pneumonia.
“What I believe profoundly is the party that campaigned for and created the NHS is the best one to nurture and sustain it for the future.
“We are all fully aware of the strain the NHS is under, and we each have a duty to do all we can to preserve this most precious asset, that makes such a vital contribution to human wellbeing in the UK.
“We cannot afford to allow it to fall into the wrong hands. And we cannot afford to see the NHS privatised or run like a supermarket. That would be a recipe for disaster,” she writes.

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Legend: Delia Smith Delia has never publicly declared her Labour allegiance before but says she has spoken out because she fears not just for the NHS but also the future of the country.
She will ram home her message when she appears alongside Ed Miliband and Ed Balls at an election rally on the south coast tomorrow.
With three days to polling day, the Labour leader will launch his strongest and most personal attack of the campaign against Mr Cameron – saying his record on the NHS is a disgrace.
Mr Miliband will say: “Our NHS is in huge danger. It’s fighting for its life because of choices this government has made.
“We’ve got people queuing out the doors of GPs’ surgeries, unable to see a doctor, one million people last year waiting over four hours in A&E, seriously ill people lying on trolleys in corridors for hours on end.
“We’ve even seen a treatment tent put up in a hospital car park. David Cameron calls his record a success. It’s not. It’s a disgrace. I know what makes the NHS strong: care, compassion and co-operation, not privatization, fragmentation and competition.”
Labour will also demand the Tories come clean by publishing the report that they commissioned from former supermarket boss Lord Rose on NHS reorganisation.
Lord Rose reportedly completed his study more than six months ago but it has yet to be released by Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
Meanwhile, a group of 50 American doctors and nurses warn that the Tory health reforms could put the NHS on a path towards a US-style system.
In a letter to The Guardian, the US medics fear the Conservatives are taking Britain on a “slippery slope” to “a self-pay market for care.”
They urge us to “preserve” the best public healthcare system in the world.

Jeremy Hunt opens the new emergency department at Lister Hospital


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Delia Smith 2002 Delia: Why I'll vote Labour

I have always voted Labour, initially because my parents did. My mother, aged five, witnessed the tragic death of her 18-month-old brother because the family could not afford to send for a doctor to treat his pneumonia.
When I was about seven, 67 years ago, I recall we had a poster with a table light behind it in our front window saying, “Vote Labour for a National Health Service” in the year they were campaigning for it.
Now what they pioneered and worked so hard for – which became the envy of the world – is in grave danger of being compromised or, at worst, ceasing to exist as we know it.
Think back to the glorious opening ceremony to the Olympics in London in 2012 that was beamed around the world, and how we celebrated the NHS as one of our greatest achievements. In the past few years our NHS has gone backwards – we need to save it for the future.
This is a life-defining election, although some people feel politics in general is getting older and a bit tired. But I would ask those to think more deeply.
Labour has more vigour and younger candidates. Our future lies with them – their ideas and vision need to be heard.
Which brings me to something else I care deeply about. For the future wellbeing of our planet, nations are going to have to connect and work together.
How else are we going to cope not just with climate change but over-population, and food and water shortages?
It is madness to suggest that our nation should cut itself adrift and not be part of the global community and its decision-making. Even worse would be splitting the union we already have.
This is a very close election so please vote Labour on Thursday to save our precious NHS, and for a better and brighter future.
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Re: UK General Election 2015: May 7 (poll)

In 2007 the Conservatives had just got rid of Gordon Brown, and discovered how bad the economy really was. Since then Britain has neatly recovered from the recession and the banking disaster, making it almost the best economy in Europe. So why change a winning system?

If you can ignore the scaremongering newspapers there isn't a lot wrong with Britain at the moment. At present the NHS needs a bit more money so they can improve a few things, but the system is working. Throwing more money at it won't make it much better.

The SUN newspaper in Scotland supports the SNP. The Sun newspaper in England ridicules the SNP. They have the same greedy ex-aussie owner!

I hope Britain does not waste their votes on the SNP or the UKIP parties. They are both singing to the public: promising everything without having the means to pay for it. I hope everyone votes either Conservative or Labour, and we can then avoid another disastrous coalition.

It's funny how Germany governs very well with a coalition, but Britain cannot.
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there isn't a lot wrong with Britain at the moment.


It's funny how Germany governs very well with a coalition, but Britain cannot.

Wow - find it difficult to fathom how you can make statement number 1!

But totally agree with statement number 2.

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In 2007 the Conservatives had just got rid of Gordon Brown, and discovered how bad the economy really was. Since then Britain has neatly recovered from the recession and the banking disaster, making it almost the best economy in Europe. So why change a winning system?

If you can ignore the scaremongering newspapers there isn't a lot wrong with Britain at the moment. At present the NHS needs a bit more money so they can improve a few things, but the system is working. Throwing more money at it won't make it much better.

The SUN newspaper in Scotland supports the SNP. The Sun newspaper in England ridicules the SNP. They have the same greedy ex-aussie owner!

I hope Britain does not waste their votes on the SNP or the UKIP parties. They are both singing to the public: promising everything without having the means to pay for it. I hope everyone votes either Conservative or Labour, and we can then avoid another disastrous coalition.

It's funny how Germany governs very well with a coalition, but Britain cannot.
I agree with this post but just a small correction that the last election was in 2010 not 2007
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If you can ignore the scaremongering newspapers there isn't a lot wrong with Britain at the moment. At present the NHS needs a bit more money so they can improve a few things, but the system is working. Throwing more money at it won't make it much better.
For as long as I can remember, the NHS has been on the brink of collapse, or at least so we have been told. I remember hearing precisely this back in the 1980s. We were told that if funding was not increased massively there soon wouldn't be an NHS. No government has increased funding by anywhere near what was being demanded but the NHS has kept going nevertheless. Reminds me of the fairy tale about the boy who cried wolf. I'm starting to ignore these warnings.

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They're all singing to the public. You can tell a politician is lieing because his lips are moving. It doesn't matter who you vote for. The cynicism will go on.

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It's funny how Germany governs very well with a coalition, but Britain cannot.
I'm sure Britain could do it as well. Britain just lacks the tradition and experience of coalition building.
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The SUN newspaper in Scotland supports the SNP. The Sun newspaper in England ridicules the SNP. They have the same greedy ex-aussie owner!
That could mean that the owner doesn't interfere, which would be a good sign. But of course it may just as well mean that they regional branches see greener grass at different spots of the political spectrum.
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Wow - find it difficult to fathom how you can make statement number 1!
Two weeks ago I was in the areas of Bristol, Wolverhampton, Manchester, Preston near Liverpool, & the Lake District.

No riots of unemployed workers, no beggars, nobody sleeping on the streets. People seemed very happy and content. I read the newspapers and watched the TV. No stories of overworked nurses collapsing nor patients being turned away from hospitals. My eldest daughter is a nursing aid, she never mentioned any problems at her hospital in Bridgnorth Shropshire.

I met a man who travelled London to Preston on Saturday morning, the train was clean and on time.

I must ask the question, if Britain is so terrible, why are so many young qualified Europeans flooding into Britain, and finding jobs? The system is working well it would seem, compared to other European countries.

Most of the press are in the business of selling true stories and rumours. I have a subscription to Private Eye, which publishes everything, including huge government embarrassments, and I can honestly say there isn't much wrong with Britain today. Let it grow for another 5 years and it will be a very good country again.

As in Geneva, London needs to quickly build many more affordable homes. The mayor has let London down on this aspect.

What we don't need right now is a complete change, the economy is good but I fear it remains fragile and doesn't have enough fat to meet all the election promises.
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As you can see from this article, the NHS isn't going to be safer in Labour's hands either.

According to a consultant children’s orthopaedic surgeon, this x-ray indicates deliberate injury caused by child abuse. The surgeon contacted Labour, but was fobbed off.

... I don’t want them running our health service as what is required at every level is to care.”
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As you can see from this article, the NHS isn't going to be safer in Labour's hands either.

According to a consultant children’s orthopaedic surgeon, this x-ray indicates deliberate injury caused by child abuse. The surgeon contacted Labour, but was fobbed off.

... I don’t want them running our health service as what is required at every level is to care.”
This has been one of the most irritating aspects of this election campaign. Is the wild accusations that get banded around over the NHS. It's become a religion where no serious debate is allowed to take place. No party would dream of destroying the NHS as it would be political suicide. Yet because many Brits consider it to be the greatest thing ever, no serious discussion ever takes place. It's clear the NHS is an enourmous money pit that's virtually unsustainable in its present form, yet any question of reform just gets shouted down.
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I must ask the question, if Britain is so terrible, why are so many young qualified Europeans flooding into Britain, and finding jobs? The system is working well it would seem, compared to other European countries.

The problem is that people don't just go from shitty places to better places. So the fact that somebody goes from country A to country B does not imply country B is better than country A. Go to any expat meet and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: UK General Election 2015: May 7 (poll)

I've been chatting on Skype in the past few days with family and friends in England. None of them have any enthusiasm about voting in the Election on Thursday and are saying that they don't even know whom they would like to vote for. They say that none of them (the political parties and MPs) can't be trusted or believed and that they all lie.

My sister says that all of her friends who typically vote for Labour can't stand Miliband, especially after he stabbed his brother David in the back for the party leadership.

I think there will be a low voter turnout, with the exception of voters in Scotland.

I can't vote as I haven't lived in England for 20 years....but along the way have acquired US citizenship, so I will vote for Hillary when the time comes...
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UKIP's candidate for Barnsley is called Wayne Kerr:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/04/wayne-...nsley-5180146/
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This has been one of the most irritating aspects of this election campaign. Is the wild accusations that get banded around over the NHS. It's become a religion where no serious debate is allowed to take place. No party would dream of destroying the NHS as it would be political suicide. Yet because many Brits consider it to be the greatest thing ever, no serious discussion ever takes place. It's clear the NHS is an enourmous money pit that's virtually unsustainable in its present form, yet any question of reform just gets shouted down.
Yes, completely agree. It is a moneypit and not fit for purpose. It compares badly with any European system in terms of service and results. It hasn't had any proper reform since it was established and as a result it does not serve the needs of the population. The world has changed since 1945; funding methods have changed and most importantly of all thinking about health provision has changed. But as you say, any criticism is treated as heresy.
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No proper reform? Well yes, there has been no 'proper' reforms- but massive reforms in fact- but not proper ones at all.

Come and have a long chat with my OH who qualified at UCH in 1969- he'll tell you about recent reforms and what he thinks about them too!

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I've been chatting on Skype in the past few days with family and friends in England. None of them have any enthusiasm about voting in the Election on Thursday and are saying that they don't even know whom they would like to vote for. They say that none of them (the political parties and MPs) can't be trusted or believed and that they all lie.
Which is kind of sad in a democracy. Your vote is your right to have a say in gov formation. I can understand the general skepticism about politicians, and quite correctly so, but my policy is to choose the lesser evil. Go, exercise your right, choose the best candidate of the lot irrespective of the party line.
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Which is kind of sad in a democracy. Your vote is your right to have a say in gov formation. I can understand the general skepticism about politicians, and quite correctly so, but my policy is to choose the lesser evil. Go, exercise your right, choose the best candidate of the lot irrespective of the party line.
About "choose the best candidate of the lot" Or least worst if that works for you
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