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Old 11.02.2015, 18:13
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If bad grammer was your only problem.

GDP per capita

West bank 4,921 $ > Pakistan 4,602 $

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Pakistan 5496 > West bank & Gaza 2200

Pakistan is devastated.
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If bad grammer was your only problem.

GDP per capita

West bank 4,921 $ > Pakistan 4,602 $

Casualties

Pakistan 5496 > West bank & Gaza 2200
Clearly not my only problem since I don't understand your point?

Doesn't that mean Pakistan is in more need of some Jew help than the West Bank and Gaza?

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Old 11.02.2015, 18:44
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My point is that Pakistan and large parts of the Muslim world are much worse off than the Palestinians.

Same for Ukraine which is suffering again.

But the antisemites focus on Israel.
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Old 11.02.2015, 18:49
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My point is that Pakistan and large parts of the Muslim world are much worse off than the Palestinians.

Same for Ukraine which is suffering again.

But the antisemites focus on Israel.


what a load of disingenuous crap!
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Old 11.02.2015, 18:58
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what a load of disingenuous crap!
Where are the huge demonstrations, boycotts, headlines about the Saharawis?
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My point is that Pakistan and large parts of the Muslim world are much worse off than the Palestinians.

Same for Ukraine which is suffering again.

But the antisemites focus on Israel.
Plenty of demonstrations boycotts and headlines about Ukraine....which is what this thread was about before your sneaky mossad training trying to derail it.
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Old 11.02.2015, 19:53
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great post, but I slightly disagree in that many Jews would possibly have emigrated by their own volition because they felt unsafe or felt that they had a safer home to go to (Israel). Just conjecture on my behalf btw
Many Italians went to New York.
Was it because they were persecuted in Italy?
Or did they just see greater opportunities in another country?
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Old 11.02.2015, 20:04
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Many Italians went to New York.
Was it because they were persecuted in Italy?
Or did they just see greater opportunities in another country?
Difference between New York and Israel is that New York is not surrounded by a many times larger hostile population that has more than once declared war.
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Old 11.02.2015, 21:55
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Many Italians went to New York.
Was it because they were persecuted in Italy?
Or did they just see greater opportunities in another country?
99% of Italians went to new york ?
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Old 11.02.2015, 23:33
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Saudi Arabia forbids women from driving but that is enshrined in their law. Does that mean it is a righteous and acceptable practice that we shouldnt challenge?

Homosexuality is punishable by death in a lot of countries, according to their laws. Does that mean it shouldnt be challenged either, because it ahs a legal standing?

Your whole position is based on the notion that because they adhere to their own laws, its perfectly acceptable, and we shouldnt challenge it. Yet, were we to actually support that position, we would not be able to support gay people against persecution, nor consider it wrong that women cant drive.

Do you see the fallacy of your position? Or will you keep digging?
What fallacy of which position? Seriously, I think you are tripping. I'm simply stating facts of how Israel does what it does legally. When I say the traffic today was awful, its inane to tell me I'm causing the traffic. They behead apostates in Saudi Arabia. Now, did I just say I think apostates should be beheaded? Duh!

I think your fallacy is in recognising statements of objective facts from opinions and sentiments.

As for countries making laws for itself, its called exercising their sovereignty. And guess what, they will set and apply laws they find best for their interests. Not whether or not you or anyone else likes it.


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Difference between New York and Israel is that New York is not surrounded by a many times larger hostile population that has more than once declared war.
So you've never been to Harlem, Brooklyn, and/or the Bronx?
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My point is that Pakistan and large parts of the Muslim world are much worse off than the Palestinians.

Same for Ukraine which is suffering again.
Bring more red herrings.
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Old 12.02.2015, 10:05
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Bring more red herrings.
As soon as I see your 10th post about the plight of Ahmadis in Pakistan, instead of focusing on Israel.
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Where are the huge demonstrations, boycotts, headlines about the Saharawis?
I suppose you mean people in the Deep South of Morocco ?
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Old 12.02.2015, 12:39
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I suppose you mean people in the Deep South of Morocco ?
Yes, Wolli of the deep south of Germany. the same ones who started the Independence Intifada.
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As soon as I see your 10th post about the plight of Ahmadis in Pakistan, instead of focusing on Israel.
So you feel that Israels treatment of the Arabs I'd equivalent to that?
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If bad grammer was your only problem.

GDP per capita

West bank 4,921 $ > Pakistan 4,602 $

Casualties

Pakistan 5496 > West bank & Gaza 2200

Pakistan is devastated.
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Old 12.02.2015, 13:10
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So you feel that Israels treatment of the Arabs I'd equivalent to that?
Of course not - Pakistanis are much more cruel to Ahmadis than Israeli to Palestinians.

So cruel, in fact - that the attack them also outside of Pakistan.

Why are pakistanis so hostile to Ahmadis ?

Btw -Ahmadis are citizens of Israel, enjoy full citizen rights - I lived in an Ahmadi Neighbouhood in Israel.
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Of course not - Pakistanis are much more cruel to Ahmadis than Israeli to Palestinians.

So cruel, in fact - that the attack them also outside of Pakistan.

Why are pakistanis so hostile to Ahmadis ?

Btw -Ahmadis are citizens of Israel, enjoy full citizen rights - I lived in an Ahmadi Neighbouhood in Israel.

Well then stop saying we need to discuss so and so horrible thing before we discuss Israel.

Since you clearly think that Israel doesn't do anything wrong then we can discuss their behaviour to our heart's content without you and your Jew buddies screaming 'ANTISEMITE'
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None of them, zero, 0 gave examples of Palestinian homes demolished to make room for Jewish homes.

The Gaza war was not "acting in the interest of global Jewry", it was to protect Israeli citizens, Jews & Arabs from Islamo Fascists who use theri pwn populatin as human shields. Had Israel acted like an Arab country (or even any other western one) there would be more Arab civilian casualities. Compare to Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria...

I never said it was. Either you are very dense, very easily confused or you are deliberately mingling different points to support your crumbling position. I said that when the Israeli government claims to be acting for global jewry, then goes to war, there is blowback against global jewry. I never said they were going to war for global jewry.

I would love to see you tell a Cypriot, Turk or Iranian that they are Arab.
Israel is acting much more humanely than all the countries you mentioned (Including the Turks in Cyprus), yet you call only Israel "unpalatable " - Which is racist.

Ah, i see, so everyone in the middle east is an Arab according to you? i think you need to work harder in hiding your stereotyping. Demography and geography, do try to learn the difference.


The Jews of Morroco left because life in Morocco was bad. It's bad enough for Muslim morrocans, and worse for minorities (Not to mention Saharawis, Who's land Morroc occupies but hardly get any attention).

So, you are saying that there is zero possibility that they left for any other reason? or is antisemitism just easier to claim from your soapbox?

I mentioned Morroco as a muslim country, not a middle eastern one.

So all Muslims are antisemitic? Again, you need help covering up your racism and stereotyping.

There are almost no Jews left in ther middle east outside Israel becasue Arab countries are virulently Anti Semitic.

And that is completely unrelated to Israel victimising the same demographic present in the rest of the middle east, huh?

But a minute ago you were talking about Morocco? Now we're back to the middle east?

Your arguments are scattered and lack any logical cohesion.

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What fallacy of which position? Seriously, I think you are tripping. I'm simply stating facts of how Israel does what it does legally. When I say the traffic today was awful, its inane to tell me I'm causing the traffic. They behead apostates in Saudi Arabia. Now, did I just say I think apostates should be beheaded? Duh!

1. You haven't stated any facts. Just stubbornly stuck to a position, despite evidence to the contrary.
2. What has traffic in Switzerland got to do with Judicial practices in other countries? Your inclusion of unrelated and seemingly nonsensical analogies bears witness to the weakness of your position.
3. Your reference to Saudi Arabia and apostates is actually contrary to your own position - you disapprove of the practice despite there being no evidence it goes against the judicial rulings of the state it occurs in. Yet you cant seem to do the same with Israel.


I think your fallacy is in recognising statements of objective facts from opinions and sentiments.

You clearly don't know what the word fallacy means. I think you mean my difficulty, my mistake, or my error. Perhaps even a reference to my Achilles heel.

As for countries making laws for itself, its called exercising their sovereignty. And guess what, they will set and apply laws they find best for their interests. Not whether or not you or anyone else likes it.

So, Israel exercising its sovereignty is fine, but Saudi Arabia doing the same to its apostates or homosexuals is not? Either they are both ok, or they are both not. Have the backbone to take a position either way.

So you've never been to Harlem, Brooklyn, and/or the Bronx?
What on earth are you even talking about in your last sentence?
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Old 12.02.2015, 16:01
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So all Muslims are antisemitic?
No, but most are.

Palestinians are used by Arab & Muslim regimes to whip up existing antisemitic sentiment - Jews have been scapegoats for 2000 years, why stop now ?
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