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Not disappointed at all. I'm glad to hear its not violent crime. So these guys can do these for years without getting caught. The more they do it, the higher the chances of getting caught, all without raising the proportion of the population.

In many case, thought I don't know a particular one here, going to jail is like getting a merit badge. it adds to street credibility. So there may be a sub-culture attached to it. In the street gangs that I know of, having been in the slammer is almost a prerequisite for certain stature.
Jail is very usefull as a networking tool. Go in, gain connections etc and back out. I am sure many criminal teams were concieved in jail.
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Old 12.03.2015, 11:51
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Are you sure about Judas? That's not what it says in the Bible.
The betrayal by Judas of Jesus was planned. See St.John 13 / 22. Here Jesus tells that he will be betrayed and even gives Judas a 'sop' to show that he knows who the betrayer will be. After receiving the sop - according to the Bible - Satan entered Judas. To keep it short, Judas was used by some sort of supernatural power, if you like to call it that, but as it was part of a plan - presumably marking Judas as a betrayer since the day he was born it can hardly be said that Judas was guilty. The poor soul was just another of those misused by religion to achieve some sort of end. It is also odd that you know he committed suicide - I can't find this ending in the Bible. There is also the odd fact that Judas had to kiss Jesus in order to show who he was - although multitudes knew this already...
Can I write about Harry Potter in this thread on UK prisons?
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Old 12.03.2015, 12:03
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Muslims are just the perfect minority! For a start, most of them are darkies. They've got this weird religion which involves arcane scripture in funny writing. Some of their cousins are fascists, which we can always hold against them. Most of them are scummy working class. They eat weird food. They torture animals in the name of their weird religion! They don't use toilet paper. There are a lot of them in prison, so they must all be criminals!

If Muslims didn't exist, we'd have to make them up.

See, it's all very well owning all the banks and newspapers, but that just makes you untouchable. Much easier to have an object of scorn who lives in a terraced house down the road.

Someone hand me a brick!
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Old 12.03.2015, 12:20
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Muslims are just the perfect minority! For a start, most of them are darkies. They've got this weird religion which involves arcane scripture in funny writing. Some of their cousins are fascists, which we can always hold against them. Most of them are scummy working class. They eat weird food. They torture animals in the name of their weird religion! They don't use toilet paper. There are a lot of them in prison, so they must all be criminals!

If Muslims didn't exist, we'd have to make them up.

See, it's all very well owning all the banks and newspapers, but that just makes you untouchable. Much easier to have an object of scorn who lives in a terraced house down the road.

Someone hand me a brick!
agree with you there, Muslems are low hanging fruit for prejudice these days, much to the relief of Jews, I also know that most Muslims want nothing more than live in peace and prosperity only limited by their personal ability to do so, just like you or me, however unlike the said Jews Muslims of certain flavors have a tendency towards violence and hatred to the Kuffar and as we have a tendency to tar them all with the same brush the adjusted Muslims get the backlash causing a negative feedback, that will cause otherwise normal Muslims to look to extremism for their sense of worth, 'cos they sure ain't gonna get "worth" here unless they become middle class, white christian law abiding citizens.
Oh yes, almost forgot; subservient to the indigenous population…




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Old 12.03.2015, 12:24
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Not it's not, absolutely not true, nobody has been in the Slammer…
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If Muslims prisoners didn't exist, we'd have to make them up.
I'd agree with this in general about prisoners. Penitentiary systems are industries on their own, comprised of judicial systems, lawyers, law enforcement, and prison systems. If nobody was committing crime, I suspect they would lower the bar to fill up their empty jail cells..


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... rape is very high on the list (read grooming) followed by drugs and theft,
So here's an example of incongruencies in cultural values in the case of rape. We have certain permissiveness in all cultures. Without a good understanding of its borders, some of it can be easily miscontrued, misunderstood and misapplied.

A girl dresses like a slut, acts loud, shows lots of skin. She must be a slut. In a culture where sluts are celebrated, afterall, she listens to that pornographic song by that pornographic artist in that pornographic music video. Therefore, it must be an invitation for me to treat her as a slut. I know this happens, and those perceptions are there.

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Old 12.03.2015, 12:42
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agree with you there, Muslems are low hanging fruit for prejudice these days, much to the relief of Jews, I also know that most Muslims want nothing more than live in peace and prosperity only limited by their personal ability to do so, just like you or me, however unlike the said Jews Muslims of certain flavors have a tendency towards violence and hatred to the Kuffar and as we have a tendency to tar them all with the same brush the adjusted Muslims get the backlash causing a negative feedback, that will cause otherwise normal Muslims to look to extremism for their sense of worth.
I don't think anybody minds the well adjusted and integrated Muslim doctor or lawyer. When people rail against Muslims, it is precisely the ones who wear strange clothes and make smelly food and (supposedly) arrange forced marriages for their daughters that they are thinking about. These Muslims thus become the lightning rods that attract the pent up anger that is building up against the dysfunctionalism of our society in general. If you get turned down for a council flat or can't get that job with the council, it's easy to pinpoint whose fault it is. And if you say so out loud the council tells you you're racist and that just strengthens the feedback loop and reinforces your feeling of being right. So there are feedback loops on both side.

Now instead fix the economy so that guy gets a proper job and a place to live and the anger goes away. Okay maybe not that simple, but you get the semtiment.
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Old 12.03.2015, 12:45
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A girl dresses like a slut, acts loud, shows lots of skin. She must be a slut. In a culture where sluts are celebrated, afterall, she listens to that pornographic song by that pornographic artist in that pornographic music video. Therefore, it must be an invitation for me to treat her as a slut. I know this happens, and those perceptions are there.
When I was helping an Iranian refugee once, he wanted to know where the western women were so he could have sex with them all.

I had to explain quite a bit to him.
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Old 12.03.2015, 13:26
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agree with you there, Muslems are low hanging fruit for prejudice these days...
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Whose fault is it?
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Old 12.03.2015, 13:46
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When I was helping an Iranian refugee once, he wanted to know where the western women were so he could have sex with them all.

I had to explain quite a bit to him.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

Erm...JC was Jewish. Not Christian. And how do you know he was a hard worker? For all we know he could have been a total cowboy with a string of half finished jobs left in his wake as he drove around Judea in his white van.

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Jesus Christ was a carpenter and a hard worker. Mohammed on the other hand spent more time complaining about shit and how unfair life was and that the rich people should give money to the poor.

Christians have a better work ethic and therefore can weather economic crises better than Muslims.
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Whose fault is it?

If this was your office mug, you'd never lose it.
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Erm...JC was Jewish. Not Christian. And how do you know he was a hard worker? For all we know he could have been a total cowboy with a string of half finished jobs left in his wake as he drove around Judea in his white van.
This is not true.

It shows you haven't actually read the Bible.

Let us consider for example John 12:49

"For I did not speak of my own accord".

Therefore Jesus drive a Honda Accord and not a white van.

His Heavenly Father on the other hand drove a Plymouth Fury

The Book of Genesis clearly states

"And God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in his Fury"

So please get your facts straight.
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Old 12.03.2015, 14:46
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Whose fault is it?
Nobody's and everybody's. It's just the way societies function. In Britain, before Muslims, we had the Irish - they ticked quite a lot of the same boxes that Muslims do now - poor, criminal, heretical, terrorists - but their problem is that they're largely invisible.

Bring in a group of people with a strong culture of their own, a tendency towards conservatism, and a reduced ability to blend in with the indigenous population, and you've got a much better target for hysteria and panic.

Trying to change it would be like trying to move the Alps to Holland, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't pretend that the Dutch might not fancy a mountain or two.
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Nobody's and everybody's. It's just the way societies function. In Britain, before Muslims, we had the Irish - they ticked quite a lot of the same boxes that Muslims do now - poor, criminal, heretical, terrorists - but their problem is that they're largely invisible.
This is not true.

Only the ones that wear the ring Bilbo found are invisible.

And with all the drunkeness, there appear to be twice the number of the others.
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indigenous population
And which is the indigenous population in Britain?
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When I was helping an Iranian refugee once, he wanted to know where the western women were so he could have sex with them all.

I had to explain quite a bit to him.
Might have been the same guy I knew.

He had managed to chat up a prostitute in Niederdorf and thought he was having his lucky day when he realized she wanted to go upstairs with him just as much as he did with her, and presumed it must be that he was such a sexy attractive guy. He then flipped out when he realised she was expecting money and ranted at me about what a shit country this is.

It didn't help that I thought it was hilarious.
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Erm...JC was Jewish.

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"And God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in his Fury"

So please get your facts straight.

Perhaps God intended the Jews to really only involve themselves in the beer or coffee business. And that is why he named them HeBrews.
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Nobody's and everybody's. It's just the way societies function.
Any chance it has anything to do with the number of actual crimes committed?
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Proving he was sexist too. No Shebrews.

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Well if the mountain won't come to the Dutch...the Dutch must go to the mountain...

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Trying to change it would be like trying to move the Alps to Holland, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't pretend that the Dutch might not fancy a mountain or two.
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