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Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

The general Muslim population in the UK has been rising slowly but steadily, in 2011 there were 4.8%, no news there, but the rise in convictions of Muslim criminals has rocketed. Maybe the police have been better at catching them? Or maybe there are more of them about? Muslims account for 4.8% of general population, but now make up 14.4% of the prison population.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31794599
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

I think the figures correlate with any dissatisfied portion of a minority group that refuse to settle down and fully integrate into the countries they settle in due to language or culture issues. The unskilled and unemployed elements will often turn to crime when all else fails.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

Sbrinz, why don't you tell us what you really believe instead of trying to hide behind some cherry-picked statistics from this pseudo-news article?

Did you see any of the following quotes?:

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Last year, 58% of Muslim prisoners were aged 30 or under, compared with 45% of the overall population, and in what's termed the "secure youth estate" - institutions which hold 10- to 17-year-olds - almost one in five prisoners was Muslim.

Amal Imad, a researcher for the charity Muslim Aid, agrees with Dame Anne's findings from five years ago that poverty - in particular not having enough money to feed a family - is a key factor driving crime, and therefore imprisonment, among Muslims.

"The underlying issue is economic crisis," she says.
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Few would disagree with that - in fact, the reoffending rates of Muslim prisoners are already substantially lower than others, at about 36% compared with 45% .
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Old 11.03.2015, 11:13
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

So why are Muslims harder hit by the economic crisis than non-Muslims?
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

I would be interested to know what percentage are prison converts
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

You can always rely on Sbrinz to bring all Muslim related news fresh off the press.
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So why are Muslims harder hit by the economic crisis than non-Muslims?
Jesus Christ was a carpenter and a hard worker. Mohammed on the other hand spent more time complaining about shit and how unfair life was and that the rich people should give money to the poor.

Christians have a better work ethic and therefore can weather economic crises better than Muslims.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

didn't jesus smash up a load of hardworking market stool holders stools? and incite people to riot? and shit like that
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didn't jesus smash up a load of hardworking market stool holders stools? and incite people to riot? and shit like that
You're probably correct. 90% of my religious teachings come from reading bumper stickers. The other 10% comes from reading bloggy-fu**tard articles from the bowels of the BBC.
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Old 11.03.2015, 12:38
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didn't jesus smash up a load of hardworking market stool holders stools? and incite people to riot? and shit like that
I don't think he ever incited people to riot. In fact on the contrary, radical elements of Jewish society at the time were expecting him to lead a rebellion and overthrow Roman rule, but he never did this. This is the reason Judas finally decided to betray him, beleiveing that if Jesus was physically assaulted by the Romans he could be provoked into fighting back and that the incident could escalate into a rebellion. Of course that didn't happen and Judas - who never wanted to see Jesus dead - himself committed suicide.

Yes, Jesus did once overthrow some market stalls. This was because they were selling stuff and making money inside the temple grounds. Not only were the temple authorities complicit to this act of sacrilege by allowing it, but they were actually cashing in on a share of the profits. Jesus wanted to expose this hypocrisy. He didn't hurt anybody or smash anything in the process, but by throwing over the tables all the money and goods became mixed up on the floor.

However, many scholars believe latter this episode to be apocryphal. There are elements within the language that are not consistent with the rest.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

he was a very naughty boy
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Jesus Christ was a carpenter and a hard worker. .

Christians have a better work ethic and therefore can weather economic crises better than Muslims.


I didn't know that Christ was a hard worker - I had a different impression seeing as how being on the Earth (apparently) for 33 years we hardly know anything about him and his 'works'.
And, about Christian work ethics - well I'm not so sure either - Adam was sent to till the earth and wasn't a Christian, nor a Jew, nor a Muslim. It actually appears that secular societies have a better work ethic than any other faith form. But it's also true that Muslims have added very little to that which we call progress; should they ever be left alone to look after what is left (ahem) it'll soon be falling apart.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why prospective employers tend to steer clear. Apart from the prayer mats of course.
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I didn't know that Christ was a hard worker - I had a different impression seeing as how being on the Earth (apparently) for 33 years we hardly know anything about him and his 'works'.
And, about Christian work ethics - well I'm not so sure either - Adam was sent to till the earth and wasn't a Christian, nor a Jew, nor a Muslim. It actually appears that secular societies have a better work ethic than any other faith form. But it's also true that Muslims have added very little to that which we call progress; should they ever be left alone to look after what is left (ahem) it'll soon be falling apart.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why prospective employers tend to steer clear. Apart from the prayer mats of course.
SO he arrived on earth, preached a lot and stopped work at 33. was he greek ?
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But it's also true that Muslims have added very little to that which we call progress
Dude, you just went full retard.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

apart from the OP I think everyone else is talking the piss
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

It was a serious question. The argument seems to be that Muslims are over-represented in UK jails, because they are disproportionality affected by the credit crunch, and I really wonder why that is.

The work ethic argument doesn't work, as it is well known that most Brits are lazy benefit scroungers.
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It was a serious question. The argument seems to be that Muslims are over-represented in UK jails, because they are disproportionality affected by the credit crunch, and I really wonder why that is.

The work ethic argument doesn't work, as it is well known that most Brits are lazy benefit scroungers.

I think it's probably more to do with what Castro said a lot of people 'find' religion in prision, nothing to do with different (better?) food, and getting out of the cells a couple of times a day etc etc
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

Statistics works! Statistics don't lie!

So let's go back in time 1000 years ago & ask one Persian Muslim & one Burgundian Christian about the circumference of the earth. Or we can go to 1350 & statistically compare healthcare institutions between the Muslim world & the Christian world.

The BBC article says that there is a large number of Muslims in prison. The article tries to guess the reason, but there is no deep analysis of this. The reason is left for each one to prove what he wants to prove: Muslims are criminals! Muslims are lazy! It's easy to come afterwards & say that "we only shared the news"
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Muslims are criminals! Muslims are lazy!
Actually, I think that's just you.
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Re: Rise in UK convicted Muslim prisoners

Today oh great scorners, I thought up a politically correct reason why there are so many Muslims in UK prisons. Haven't you noticed the smaller rise in other religions, the Sikhs and Jews?

Perhaps the reason is that many Muslims are due to be deported, having served some prison time for their crimes, but are prevented from leaving by the caring Christians in Britain, who reckon their home countries are now too dangerous to be receiving these poor people.
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