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Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Syrian refugees arriving in Hungary are not welcomed by the government unfortunately. Shame on them. They do not get food, drink, medication, diapers, toiletries, shelter.
Volunteers are helping them at the main stations in Budapest, Debrecen, Pécs. They are collecting and distributing stuff.

I will leave for Budapest next Friday with an empty car from Zug. If you would like to contribute, here is today's list what is needed:
- pre-packed muesli bars, chocolate bars, waffles, biscuits, snacks
- plastic cups (0.5 dl for portions of shower gel and 2 dl for tea or water)
- tea (instant or teabags), instant coffee
- soap (liquid and solid too), shower gel, shampoo (preferably small portions)
- toothbrush, toothpaste
- razor, shaving foam or gel, deodorant
- diapers (any size), wet wipes for babies, sanitary pads
- baby items: nursing bottle, nursing bottle sanitizer, baby water, carriers, carriages (collapsible),
- towels
- men’s shoes, sport shoes and slippers (not flip-flops)
- women’s sport shoes and slippers (flat and not flip-flops)
- underwear and socks for kids, women and men (only new, because of hygiene)
- medicine, bandages, first aid kit
- shirts, pullovers (mainly male S-M size), raincoat, socks
- blankets, polifoams (yoga mattress) and sleeping bags
- colorful pencils, graphite pencils, rubbers
- coloring sheets and books
- cans of beans, chickpeas, lentilles and fish (easily openable cans please)
- backpacks
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

They paid > 10000Eur to come to Europe, how come they don't have a money for soap now? Or they just want to live for free here?

Just send them back home, sooner better for all of us. Real refugees are woman with young children, not 20 years old aggressive guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZT0HdCc73Q
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Old 27.08.2015, 08:36
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Yeah, cos there aren't any women or children (or their husbands, fathers, brothers, sons) among the 9 million Syrians who've fled their homes, 3 million into neighbouring countries and 150'000 already in the EU. Obviously it's nothing to do with the total disintegration of their country due to war - it's just economic migrants looking to take advantage our wealth. That is, except for the ones who are Islamist terrorists.
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They paid > 10000Eur to come to Europe, how come they don't have a money for soap now? Or they just want to live for free here?

Just send them back home, sooner better for all of us. Real refugees are woman with young children, not 20 years old aggressive guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZT0HdCc73Q
Who do you think the nappies are for, dickhead?
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Who do you think the nappies are for, dickhead?
Around the head?
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Soleil, hats off to you for the humanitarian gesture. Given the economics of it all, would it not also make sense to take donations and buy the stuff when you get there?
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Old 27.08.2015, 13:40
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Soleil, are you working together with any NGOs or humanitarian aid organizations? Often these organizations have updated lists of donation needs.. eg feminine hygiene products are oftentimes lacking. Thank you for your contribution.

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Syrian refugees arriving in Hungary are not welcomed by the government unfortunately. Shame on them. They do not get food, drink, medication, diapers, toiletries, shelter.
Volunteers are helping them at the main stations in Budapest, Debrecen, Pécs. They are collecting and distributing stuff.

I will leave for Budapest next Friday with an empty car from Zug. If you would like to contribute, here is today's list what is needed:
- pre-packed muesli bars, chocolate bars, waffles, biscuits, snacks
- plastic cups (0.5 dl for portions of shower gel and 2 dl for tea or water)
- tea (instant or teabags), instant coffee
- soap (liquid and solid too), shower gel, shampoo (preferably small portions)
- toothbrush, toothpaste
- razor, shaving foam or gel, deodorant
- diapers (any size), wet wipes for babies, sanitary pads
- baby items: nursing bottle, nursing bottle sanitizer, baby water, carriers, carriages (collapsible),
- towels
- men’s shoes, sport shoes and slippers (not flip-flops)
- women’s sport shoes and slippers (flat and not flip-flops)
- underwear and socks for kids, women and men (only new, because of hygiene)
- medicine, bandages, first aid kit
- shirts, pullovers (mainly male S-M size), raincoat, socks
- blankets, polifoams (yoga mattress) and sleeping bags
- colorful pencils, graphite pencils, rubbers
- coloring sheets and books
- cans of beans, chickpeas, lentilles and fish (easily openable cans please)
- backpacks
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Old 27.08.2015, 13:41
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Soleil, hats off to you for the humanitarian gesture. Given the economics of it all, would it not also make sense to take donations and buy the stuff when you get there?
I suppose that would be easier and cheaper, but she probably meant some of us have items in bulk at home that we wouldn't mind donating..
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Around the head?
You might have a grin on your face and think that being a refugee can never happen to you dude but still...
I do hope you'll never have to see how it's like to be homeless, or hungry from whatever circumstances or reasons life might throw at you. And if that will happen though, I really hope you'll have no internet connection so you can read the small minded' comments about you....on forums.

OP, excellent initiative!
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Old 27.08.2015, 13:57
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

You are absolutely right. Unfortunately there is no official organization and bank account yet. As far as I know, it is being worked on.

These helpers are all civilians and there is no organisation behind them. It is done on a quick ad hoc base, it is real firefighting.

Up to now there are two possibilities:
- Hungarian Helsinki Comettee provides legal assistance for asylum seekers (they attend the camps, review the conditions, take up individual cases, issues leaflets, etc.)

http://helsinki.hu/en/infoleaflets-for-asylum-seekers (there is a Donate / paypal part here)

- Tesco online shopping (working on it, waiting for address, and contact). You can review what has been ordered, to what address, and pay it with a bank card.

If it sounds awkward to you, I ask for some patience - bank account is on its way, so is rainy cold weather.
Thanks.
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Old 27.08.2015, 14:15
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

I have the utmost respect and gratitude for you for organizing this.


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You are absolutely right. Unfortunately there is no official organization and bank account yet. As far as I know, it is being worked on.

These helpers are all civilians and there is no organisation behind them. It is done on a quick ad hoc base, it is real firefighting.

Up to now there are two possibilities:
- Hungarian Helsinki Comettee provides legal assistance for asylum seekers (they attend the camps, review the conditions, take up individual cases, issues leaflets, etc.)

http://helsinki.hu/en/infoleaflets-for-asylum-seekers (there is a Donate / paypal part here)

- Tesco online shopping (working on it, waiting for address, and contact). You can review what has been ordered, to what address, and pay it with a bank card.

If it sounds awkward to you, I ask for some patience - bank account is on its way, so is rainy cold weather.
Thanks.
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Old 27.08.2015, 14:20
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

No, I am not part of any NGOs. Unfortunately only a very few organizations take part.

Short briefing:
- at the bordering cities (Pécs, Szeged) there are some doctors and nurses who work absolutely free, using their own means (unfortunately up to now no redcross at the scene)
- there are wooden booths or nothing at the main stations where they distribute information, printed maps, water, coffee, food, soap, sanitary items, clothes, medicine, etc on a volunteer basis (no NGOs)
- volunteers lead the refugees to the trains and talk to the conductor so that they do not get lost or ripped off
- there is a taxi company in Győr which takes refugees to the refugee camp for free (it is not in walking distance)
- refugees arriving in huge numbers and those who arrive at night do not get a train - they spend the night homeless at the stations, on the ground

Volunteers try to give some basic humane conditions. Refugees do not get it anyhow or from anyone else.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Could you please PM me your phone number and address. I will try to bring you somethings this Weekend.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

If anyone wants to order groceries to Szeged volunteers, these are the instructions (this was actually written to someone in Zurich from a member of Migszol, Szeged):

"Dear .....,

first of all: thank you for your letter, we really appreciate your help. First I sum up what we do here in Szeged and then go my instructions for the online orders.

I am a member of a group of volunteers in Szeged, Hungary. Szeged is very close to the Serbian border and this is the place where in the last 1,5 months 500 refugees entered Hungary on a daily (!) basis. We are individuals who try to help those exhausted people, broken families who had to leave their life behind because of the war in their countries.

We really appreciate your help, the easiest way is to buy some stuff online for the migrants here: bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB - I give you some products that worked very well before, but of course you decide what you buy

Every day we prepare 500 sandwiches and we give at least one bottle of water for the migrants, so the things needed for this are the followings:

sliced bread - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004010803109 or http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004120374555
butter or margarin - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004010968860
alufol / aluminium foil - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004002653132
cucumber - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004009252888
paprika - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004006725682 or http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004120278928 or http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004120278934
cheese - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004005966109

For the exhausted people we used to make coffee and tea, so we accept:

nescafé - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004002813550
sugar - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004002736965
milk - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004002736019

For the kids we give fruits, we can accept any amount of these fresh fruits, it can also be ordered online:

apple - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004003262425 or http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004005341531
banana - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004005406742
pear - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004008200262
peach - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004005335431

We try to provide the basic hygiene too, so we accept also:

disposable razors - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004010811005
shaving foam - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004009454510
liquid soap - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004010245848
hand & skin disinfectant - http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB/Pro.../2004010218637

First you have to register here, its easy and simple: https://r.tesco.hu/en-GB/?returnUrl=...027.1439891464

When you are “inside”, you can choose the things you would like to buy, put them in your virtual “shopping trolley” and pay securely online when you are ready.

At the registration please give my home address, it will be also the delivery address: (for the contact data please send me a pm
. Before you order, please make sure that I am available in te chosen time period, my email address is please send pm for detail

If you could make your order now, my suggested time slot is X. If it is not available, pls try to choose the next one, which is X.
Please agree with the volunteer when to get it delivered - these are delivered to a private house so the person needs to be at home in order to pack it asap in the car
There is no delivery to the shelters or train stations directly.

If you have any questions concerning our work, the possible ways of help, do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you again for your help, I wish you all the best in the name of whole MigSzol Szeged."

I would add sanitary napkins and nappies, all sizes.
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Old 27.08.2015, 14:50
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Unfortunately very, very horrific news just released in Austria is on the same topic (using Google Translate):

In Austria , the corpses of potentially 50 refugees have been discovered in a truck . The vehicle was in a breakdown bay on the A4 motorway between Neusiedl and Parndorf near the Hungarian border, police said on Thursday.

The " Kronen Zeitung " reports of up to 50 dead it is said by the police. Death probably occurred some time ago . The vehicle was a truck, which normally loaded foods.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Here the original to above post (has just been released so couldn't find it in English yet):

http://www.krone.at/
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

So your plan is to fill your car up with food and goods and distribute it to Syrian refugees once you get to Hungary?

Is it not a bit much effort? I mean, how long does it take to empty a car load of goods? For all that effort, you may end up helping a few people, but is it worth it? And how will you even know they're even Syrian refugees?

Hungary is flooded with migrants because it is a Schengen country with a boarder to Serbia. The majority of migrants are coming to Europe from the Balkans, so you may end up helping Mr Krasniqi and chums from Kosovo instead.

Your intentions are very noble, but I just don't think it'd be worth it.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

Please read my posts earlier - there are other ways of help (online purchasing, paypal for legal assistance).

Please read carefully, this is a very ad hoc initiation, there is no NGO in the background, volunteers are literally firefighting at the stations and at the camps.
As people arrive, they do not have money (robbed and beaten on the way), food, drink, shelter, etc. Volunteers are trying to provide for some humane needs. Noone else is doing it.
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Soleil, hats off to you for the humanitarian gesture. Given the economics of it all, would it not also make sense to take donations and buy the stuff when you get there?
Absolutely. There must surely be a reason all the Hungarians come to Switzerland to do their shopping.

Oh, wait.

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Noone else is doing it.
I really admire the effort. Few lift a finger help. Most only post some sentiments on Internet forums.

What kind of car do you have, and how much can you actually carry? I think the value of what you are doing is more than the goods you are bringing. Perhaps as you get there, you'll find more valuable ways of helping. Just going through with it already demonstrates a valuable message to these people. But nevertheless, I'd advise caution. There are some there who may not appreciate what you are doing. So as you try to take care of others, don't neglect looking after yourself.
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