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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

Comparison is at the bottom, if we are talking social problems linked to financial power.
Of course a good point is if this is the right thing to do in establishing who causes major trouble to a society. Then probably not.


Expats in Switzerland are the best proof ot that, apparently.
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Old 18.12.2015, 10:06
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although I do remember times when people from Eastern Germany e.g. caused loads of problems
do you now Sherlock?

the last I heard she is still in power and still causing lots of problems.
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Old 18.12.2015, 10:13
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But with regards to problems like in Malmö, Kreuzberg, Secondigliano, ... riots or even open wars like London suburbia, Belfast, Londonderry, L.A., Ferguson, New York, Rio de Janeiro and all those difficult places are at lightyears of distance.
O the drama queen.

Have you ever been to Belfast? Or to New York, or LA, or even Londonderry (I appreciate your imperialistic choice i using that name, and I'm sure the Gaelic participants on this forum will like that too)

Have you any idea what you are talking about.
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Old 18.12.2015, 10:22
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Have you ever been to Belfast? Or to New York, or LA, or even Londonderry (I appreciate your imperialistic choice i using that name, and I'm sure the Gaelic participants on this forum will like that too)

Have you any idea what you are talking about.
Indeed, Londonderry is a small ski village in southern Vermont.

Been there a few times myself, never saw any problems.

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Old 18.12.2015, 11:19
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Have you ever been to Belfast? Or to New York, or LA, or even Londonderry
These places are full of "foreigners", why would he want to go there?
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Old 18.12.2015, 13:02
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do you now Sherlock?

the last I heard she is still in power and still causing lots of problems.
....and still has a lot of support from her party. It's incredible, I think there is something in the water.
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Old 18.12.2015, 13:44
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....and still has a lot of support from her party. It's incredible, I think there is something in the water.
Well, that whole speech the other day was to consolidate her party. She said anything and everything to rein in dissent. She said, you all are wonderful and marvellous. And then they all felt good and clapped got themselves.


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Have you any idea what you are talking about.
Has anyone ever met any Germans that think like this Buce guy? Because I haven't. Not any normal German I know of.
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Old 18.12.2015, 13:52
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Has anyone ever met any Germans that think like this Buce guy? Because I haven't. Not any normal German I know of.
I haven't met or worked with any German who writes English the way this member does.

Having spent the last decade working for a multi-national company, with multi-national colleagues (as most of us here have), you kind of get a rythmn for grammatical errors in written English.
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Old 18.12.2015, 14:29
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Has anyone ever met any Germans that think like this Buce guy? Because I haven't. Not any normal German I know of.


Sadly I have. His soundbites sounds straight out of some leftist student union debate where rich middle class kids whose parents were wanabee '68 rebels pretend to show solidarity with some idealized version of the poor, while of course treating the real poor, who are not at all as leftist as they ought to be, with terrible contempt. Anti America and anti-Israeli diatribe is pretty much standard fare in such circles.
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Old 18.12.2015, 14:33
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

Yes, the sentiments I have heard in other expressions. But the rhythm of the language, and grammatical errors, not at all. This one is very odd. Hopefully not too deranged.
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Old 22.12.2015, 16:17
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

They're cracking down between DK and S:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35159183

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Old 22.12.2015, 16:29
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

Interesting change of posture for Sweden. They finally realized they ought to control their borders. Glad to see a European government that actually pays attention to the concerns of its population. I thought they were too far gone to the left to ever snap to.

The conversation between the Danish and Swedish government is hilarious. They argue and squabble through tweets, press releases and interviews. Sweden asked for help, and Denmark says the only help they can offer is to be a role model for Sweden for changing its policies. They are like two squabbling colleagues who will probably go out for a drink together after work.
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Old 22.12.2015, 16:32
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They're cracking down between DK and S:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35159183

Tom
So after spending all those millions on building this cool bridge, travel between the two countries is being relegated to what it was decades ago.

Welcome to Merkel's new Europe.
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Old 22.12.2015, 18:38
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

I had another interesting exchange with the nazi security guy I spoke of previously.

On my last visit to Germany I decided the time had come to wind him up a bit more.

So I pointed my camera at him.

Just the lens that is. I didn't press the button.

So out he trots and does his usual shouting routine.

He says I need to delete that picture.

I ask why. This is a public street and he is guarding public land on the taxpayer's dime.

He say, this isn't public land, it belongs to the government.

I asked him who he thinks owns the government.

He pretends to think. I pretend to ignore him.

After some profound thought he says, delete the picture.

Repeat above questions for several cycles.

Add that I make fun of him of his speech impediment. This makes him even more irate. His face is red and he shouts. We have quite a crowd standing around.

I tell them he's a crazy guy escaped from the lunatic asylum and his carers will be here soon.

He shouts that I'm a liar. I stay calm.

He takes out phone and "calls the police".

Then he says, now the police are coming, so delete your pictures.

I tell him why should I delete any pictures now the police are coming. Surely that would be destroying evidence.

He say, he has a right to privacy. If I want I can photograph the migrants in the camp but not him.

Yep, you heard it right.

Why does he have more right to privacy than the migrants?

Because people might recognize him.

So he doesn't want people to know he works here?

I might be from the press.

So there is something here the press should not see?

Delete the pictures

No

Ok, now I'm really going to call the police

So you didn't call them first time?

I did.

So you think the police forgot?

I'm reminding them.

Some time later two police cars arrice with four officers.

Courtesy of Germany taxpayer. Yee. Haa.

Policeman asks, so there's been a burglary?

I say no. This idiot wants me to delete a picture I never took.

So there hasn't been a burglary?

No

I tell the nazi, there wasn't a burglary, you lied to the police and you are wasting police time.

The policeman wants to see my pictures.

There isn't one of the nazi. The nazi goes away while another policeman talks to him. But they then each go their own ways. No arrest for wasting police time.

The policemen ask me some more questions and tell me not to aggaravate him so much. It's not been the first time they've had to come down here for a stupid reason.

I google the company he works for and they also did the security at the recent CDU party conference. Maybe I have actually met Merkel's pet monkey?
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I had another interesting exchange with the nazi security guy I spoke of previously.
Don't use the word Nazi when you don't know what a nazi is. A German guy pissed you off, that's all. Calm down and keep the nazis for actual nazi issues. Legally speaking, he was right. I know you don't like it, but German law doesn't wait for your approval. You don't like Germany nor Germans, just don't go there and don't talk to us either. Simple.

You are welcome to call me language nazi, that would illustrate my point exactly.
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Old 22.12.2015, 18:56
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Legally speaking, he was right. I know you don't like it, but German law doesn't wait for your approval. You don't like Germany nor Germans, just don't go there and don't talk to us either. Simple.
So it was you I was talking to?

Or were you there?

Or how do you know he was right?

Or are you trying to say, he must have been right, seeing Germans wearing uniforms are always right?

Even the polieceman admitted that guy was an idiot. Would you like to write to that policeman to explain how wrong he was?

It never ceases to surprise me to what depths you will fall to defend the indefensible.
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Old 22.12.2015, 18:59
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Or how do you know he was right?
The same way anybody would know what law says.

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Even the polieceman admitted that guy was an idiot.
Of course he did. I do the same as teacher when I am in charge of de-escalation talks: One agrees with the idiot making the trouble until he feels flattered enough in his/her ego to be happy to just go away. You may choose to think that it applied to the other guy, I don't mind.
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Old 22.12.2015, 19:04
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The same way anybody would know what law says.


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Tell me about this law that says it's ok to photograph migrants but not the nazi who guards them.

And this guy did look like a total nazi. I would have loved to take a picture to prove my point but see above.
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Old 22.12.2015, 19:07
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And this guy did look like a total nazi.
In other words, you judge by the look.

I don't doubt one second that he was an idiot to piss you off at that he thinks the same about you. Fine. But don't use the word "nazi" where it doesn't belong. That's all.
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Old 22.12.2015, 20:00
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In other words, you judge by the look.

I don't doubt one second that he was an idiot to piss you off at that he thinks the same about you. Fine. But don't use the word "nazi" where it doesn't belong. That's all.
I just love the way you know things without having been there.

If somebody has a neo nazi haircut and drives a car whose registration plate contains the numbers 18 and then gets a job where he gets to guard a camp and shout at people, I think I am within the benefit of the doubt to call him a nazi. Especially if he doesn't want to be photographed because he doesn't want people to know he works there. Imagine if his nazi friends were to discover on the internet that their buddy guards migrants to make his living?
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