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Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

How does such a new aircraft have an engine catch fire on take-off?
I assume BA aircraft are very well maintained?

Sabotage?
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

battery problems?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing...ttery_problems

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How does such a new aircraft have an engine catch fire on take-off?
I assume BA aircraft are very well maintained?

Sabotage?
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Old 09.09.2015, 11:35
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http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...las-vegas.html
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Old 09.09.2015, 11:40
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

Some interesting comments on that forum / thread. Well worth reading.
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Old 09.09.2015, 12:02
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

Calm and professional, full of admiration for these guys.

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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

Must have been quite scary. Lots of questions are going to be asked...

But I just shudder when I see some of the people evacuating from the plane actually took their bags with them

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34193767

Look at the second static picture... did the guy in the white shirt came down the evacuation slide with that huge troller in his arms? Or maybe he was the pilot

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Old 09.09.2015, 12:29
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

Glad everyone's safe.
Look forward to watching the episode in "Air Crash Investigation"
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Must have been quite scary. Lots of questions are going to be asked...
That's normally the case after an aviation accident.
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I wonder if they were hit by the luggage of people who stopped to get it out of the overhead locker.

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How does such a new aircraft have an engine catch fire on take-off?
I assume BA aircraft are very well maintained?

Sabotage?
It happens. Not very often but it happens.


Looking at the damage picture on PP post ~55 it must have been especially interesting for those sitting level with the engine.
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

Did the captain activate the engine fire extinguisher? Lucky it was just before takeoff, what if the fire started while the plane was airborne?
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Lucky it was just before takeoff, what if the fire started while the plane was airborne?
They would have followed standard fire procedures and an immediate one-engine landing.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post9110365
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Re: Boeing 777-200 catches fire in Las Vegas

I would personally ban any passenger evacuating with their luggage from ever flying with my airline again. It's not just some petty rule to follow, it's to minimise loss of life.
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I would personally ban any passenger evacuating with their luggage from ever flying with my airline again. It's not just some petty rule to follow, it's to minimise loss of life.
Yes, this behaviour should basically be enough to get people on the "No Fly List". Simply replace label "terrorist" with "hoarder"
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I would personally ban any passenger evacuating with their luggage from ever flying with my airline again. It's not just some petty rule to follow, it's to minimise loss of life.

Can we include as well the passengers who took time out to video the evacuation process on their phones? I heard on one news report that some videos were made inside the plane. Maybe we need to launch a public awareness campaign about using mobile devices while evacuating aircraft!

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I would personally ban any passenger evacuating with their luggage from ever flying with my airline again. It's not just some petty rule to follow, it's to minimise loss of life.
Doesn't that depend on the nature of the emergency.

There is a difference between (1) we need to bail out because the whole plane will explode any second, and (2) we need to evacuate because the plane is f@kked up but nobody is in any immediate danger and the fire is under control but we're going to ask you to eave your lugagge behind anyway because we can and because we're obnoxious pedants.

If the difference cannot be made clearly, you've got a communications problem.

A friend of my OH had a long and painful struggle figting an airline over a valuable item that was stolen after being left behind in an emergency evacuation and the airline basically told her she had no proof and was making it up. In a case like that you have very little leverage against them. If too many stories like that leak out and people take precautions accordingly I'd say the airline shares the blame if people are injured as a result.
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There is a difference between (1) we need to bail out because the whole plane will explode any second, and (2) we need to evacuate because the plane is f@kked up but nobody is in any immediate danger and the fire is under control but we're going to ask you to eave your lugagge behind anyway because we can and because we're obnoxious pedants.

If the difference cannot be made clearly, you've got a communications problem.
Somewhat the idea of sitting surrounded by multiple-ton tanks full of aviation fuel and then pondering whether a fire is under control or not doesn't quite add up to me.

An emergency evacuation is an emergency evacuation. In non-emergency cases the crew would ask passengers to take their belongings with them - they don't like leftovers either.
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Somewhat the idea of sitting surrounded by multiple-ton tanks full of aviation fuel and then pondering whether a fire is under control or not doesn't quite add up to me.

An emergency evacuation is an emergency evacuation. In non-emergency cases the crew would ask passengers to take their belongings with them - they don't like leftovers either.
How about doing a "people without luggage first" evacutaion routine?

That way you would serve both those who don't think its under control and those who do.
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How about doing a "people without luggage first" evacutaion routine?

That way you would serve both those who don't think its under control and those who do.
that would work as well as the always comical:


"For those of you without tight connections, please sit back down and let those who do need to reach their flights deplane first"


it usually lasts about 5 nanoseconds
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I'd stay stood up in protest at the word "deplane".
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