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Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

Airbus has filed a new patent this month, aimed at cramming more passengers into its planes.

Looks like they developed a mezzanine style seating, essentially stacking passengers above one another.

These aren't the double-decker planes. Just regular planes with a number of raised seats.

Doubt this will translate into cheaper ticket prizes. Comfort issues aside, I wonder if the design will get approbation from the Safety Agencies.

Despite being a tad bit unrealistic for now, I liked their proposal from a few years ago much more than this one.

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Old 03.11.2015, 13:01
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

Of course, the mere filing of a patent application doesn't mean that the idea enshrined therein would ever be implemented.
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Old 03.11.2015, 13:16
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

I like it. Every time I flew economy on a long distance over-night flight did I think to myself "Why can I not have a flat bed? We solved this problem in sleeper trains more than a century ago even in third class..."...
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

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Airbus has filed a new patent this month, aimed at cramming more passengers into its planes.

Looks like they developed a mezzanine style seating, essentially stacking passengers above one another.

These aren't the double-decker planes. Just regular planes with a number of raised seats.

Doubt this will translate into cheaper ticket prizes. Comfort issues aside, I wonder if the design will get approbation from the Safety Agencies.

Despite being a tad bit unrealistic for now, I liked their proposal from a few years ago much more than this one.

Will they check if the person above has been on the lash and had a curry the night prior to flying ?
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

Reminds me of the old slaving ships! Why not just roll the passengers in on a conveyer belt? Could pack in a few more thousands.

How they going to serve food and drinks to those people crammed between floor/above bunk chair - and those in the above bunk chair? Oh of course, just slide them in a sealed plastic bag of goo to slurp!

Gosh, but air travel (tourist class) has become a cheap horrible affair as it is, and now its getting worse. I guess those layers of people does not include doing that in First class?

Edit reason: Forgot to ask "How do the top bunk folk get to the toilet?"
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

Is this a wind-up like the RyanAir story, where someone quoted Michael O'Leary as saying he had applied to the FAA to allow standing passengers?? He apparently denied this, which lead to theories that he'd done it to create a bit of controversy and raise publicity for himself and Ryanair.
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Old 03.11.2015, 13:49
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

If youre going to think about optimizing space, isn't all this charging for checking baggage thing leading to less hold baggage. How difficult would it be to convert part of the hold for passenger seating? Most people don't want to look out of the window anyway, and if it could save a couple of bucks you're cashing in on the Geiz ist geil mentality
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Old 03.11.2015, 14:17
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I guess you didn't click through and look at the rest of the drawings. The one included above doesn't clearly show it, but item 30 is a set of steps for each upper seat. I quite like the idea, actually.
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Old 03.11.2015, 14:29
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

Looks remarkably like this to me.



It's amazing how changing realtively small details create something you can patent all over again.





An experimental train built in 1949 for use on London commuter trains. Despite being broadly condemned as a failure, it dis last in use until the 1970s.

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Old 03.11.2015, 14:33
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

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I guess you didn't click through and look at the rest of the drawings. The one included above doesn't clearly show it, but item 30 is a set of steps for each upper seat. I quite like the idea, actually.
So not adding more people... just making more space for people actually.

They can't just increase the number of passengers. Each airframe has a weight limit and a max number of passengers allowed (for evacuation purposes) ... so they can't just "double" the passengers.
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

For health and safety reasons, I can not ever see this happening on a commercial airline.
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So not adding more people... just making more space for people actually.

They can't just increase the number of passengers. Each airframe has a weight limit and a max number of passengers allowed (for evacuation purposes) ... so they can't just "double" the passengers.
Yes, and i dont think they could evacuate all people within the given timeframe.
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Old 03.11.2015, 14:43
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They can't just increase the number of passengers. Each airframe has a weight limit and a max number of passengers allowed (for evacuation purposes) ... so they can't just "double" the passengers.
It's a patent filing. By the time they get round to using it (if ever) they'll probably need to have a redesigned plane with a higher cabin and more powerful engines.

I don't think anyone's going to retro-fit it into existing aircraft.
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For health and safety reasons, I can not ever see this happening on a commercial airline.
What are the health and safety reasons? It's not much different than a train.
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What are the health and safety reasons? It's not much different than a train.
As part of the certification process, aircraft manufacturers are required to demonstrate that an aircraft, in maximum density configuration, can be completely evacuated within 90 seconds using only half of the total number of emergency exits.

....a train isn't full of Jet Fuel.
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Reminds me of the old slaving ships! Why not just roll the passengers in on a conveyer belt? Could pack in a few more thousands.
The story did remind me of this diagram.
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So not adding more people... just making more space for people actually.
Looks to me like they removed the space for hand luggage though...

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For health and safety reasons, I can not ever see this happening on a commercial airline.
What safety exactly? For the event that people have to evacuate a plane crash? No offense, but all those safety cards and videos are only to calm you as a passenger... not much you can do when your plane crashes.
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

i feel sorry for Mr. 12/18
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What safety exactly? For the event that people have to evacuate a plane crash? No offense, but all those safety cards and videos are only to calm you as a passenger... not much you can do when your plane crashes.
FIRE ... of an aircraft on the ground.

This was last week http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ort-Laude.html ... and a British Airways caught fire the other month http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34193767 .... Don't know about you, but I'd want to be off quick.
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Re: Airbus' new patent to seat people on top of each other

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Looks to me like they removed the space for hand luggage though...



What safety exactly? For the event that people have to evacuate a plane crash? No offense, but all those safety cards and videos are only to calm you as a passenger... not much you can do when your plane crashes.
Those cards and procedures just make me even more nervous....
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