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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Zimbabwe.html

Sorry, had to vent - this is so disgusting
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Old 16.10.2015, 15:45
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Sorry, had to vent - this is so disgusting
That'll teach the elephant to not go out and buy a gun.
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Old 16.10.2015, 15:59
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That'll teach the elephant to not go out and buy a gun.
It shows that, had the elephant been stationary (perhaps), then He would have avoided moving object in which case it was a stray bullet. Another scenario, the hunter should be suing the park authorities for letting a freely grazing elephant to collide with his randomly fired bullet!

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Sorry, had to vent - this is so disgusting
to be honest, it is not worse than a cow slaughtered for a steak or a mouse caught in a mouse trap.
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Two sides to every story. As with Cecil the lion, I really couldn't give a shit.

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Elephant gun?

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Old 16.10.2015, 16:30
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Two sides to every story. As with Cecil the lion, I really couldn't give a shit.

Fair enough ...

I should read the contract and believe that all that money is going into conservation and not the private pocket
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Fair enough ...

I should read the contract and believe that all that money is going into conservation and not the private pocket
I'm not pro-hunting by any means. But it's just irksome that the whole world gets hot under the collar when a lion gets shot, completely legally, in a place that they're never going to visit. What's the difference between shooting a lion, a stag, a grouse or an elk anyhow? Beasts getting shot for sport is just something that some people like to do.
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What's the difference between shooting a lion, a stag, a grouse or an elk anyhow? Beasts getting shot for sport is just something that some people like to do.
Can I just bring your attention back to the article:

The problem
In the last ten years elephant numbers have dropped by 62%. There are fewer than 500,000 on the African continent today and conservationists have warned that by the end of the next decade, they could be extinct


Hunted for trophies
Zimbabwe’s elephant-hunting industry generates $14 million a year. Because elephant carcasses are so large, they are rarely exported but replicas are often made from fibre glass for the original tusks to be inserted into. In April 2014, the US banned the import of elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Tanzania, overs concerns about a steep decline in their numbers

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Some have called for higher trophy fees for larger animals, and the protection of exceptional animals. Some countries (eg. Botswana and Kenya) have banned big-game sport hunting altogether. For others, hunting remains a lifeline to sustain wildlife populations and impoverished communities living among them
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What gets me about all these hunting/fishing/shooting sports persons is how they assure us that they do it for conservation. That on which they found their reasoning may well appear to make common sense - nevertheless before gunpowder and all its tribulations came along nature coped very well thank you. There are laws of nature which ensure that too many of any species is quickly brought under control and the network nature has formed over eons stays put, or would if it could. Nature worked out long ago what it had to do to keep the oceans, rivers, forests, jungles full. All we do in our wonton cleverness is ensure that whole continents have lost and are losing the last representatives of a one time earth teeming with life of all kinds. That we find 'valid' excuses for killing everything off is normal - but our planet today has many empty spaces caused by our egos.
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It's just not OK. Do you believe that this is OK?
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But it's just irksome that the whole world gets hot under the collar when a lion gets shot, completely legally, in a place that they're never going to visit.
The recent instance of the whole world getting hot under the collar when a lion got shot was partly because it was not legal. The lion was lured out.
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What gets me about all these hunting/fishing/shooting sports persons is how they assure us that they do it for conservation.
I do it because I enjoy it.

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There are laws of nature which ensure that too many of any species is quickly brought under control and the network nature has formed over eons stays put, or would if it could. Nature worked out long ago what it had to do to keep the oceans, rivers, forests, jungles full.
One of those things nature worked out is humanity, by the way.

Oh, and nature didn't "work out" diddly. There is no vast consciousness controlling everything but somehow impotent in the face of humanity. Random chance evolved the earth's ecosystem to the point where it is today, and a million years from now it will be something completely different again; the current status quo is not inherently "right" for earth, though it seems to be right for us, it just happens to be where we're at now.
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The thing I don't get is that the whole Internet is up in arms when some hunter spends big money to the locals to live out his hobby. When some dictator like Mugabe kills the same lion and elephant to cook them for his birthday party does nobody bat an eye...
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The thing I don't get is that the whole Internet is up in arms when some hunter spends big money to the locals to live out his hobby. When some dictator like Mugabe kills the same lion and elephant to cook them for his birthday party does nobody bat an eye...
It's sad because both animals constituted part of natural history and represented profound symbol in the park exemplifying ability to survive for such long period of time. Another senseless and easy killing by hobbyist who could have easily hunted something more challenging and common than senior representatives of the Big Five. Shame on those game park rangers who lured the poor animals for own profit at the first place, yet something that does not have anything to do with conservation. How would you feel about your hundred some years old historical edifices were equaled with rubble because the new development company decided to promote the offices to let?

Maybe Mugabe was jealous of seniority and order to hunt down his rival on his birthday ...
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Re: Cowardly Bastards

Disgusting.
Personally people who hunt are overcompensating for obvious issues.
If you really want to be a hunter, get rid of the high powered rifle with the scope and meet the animal in his/her habitat on equal terms.
Pretending to be a hunter with this kind of nonsense means you have multiple issues.
And you are sick in the head and heart.
Because animals have as much right as humans to this earth.
I hope this man and people like him die a slow, painful and horrible death.
That may help them understand the pain and suffering they cause.
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Disgusting.
Personally people who hunt are overcompensating for obvious issues.
If you really want to be a hunter, get rid of the high powered rifle with the scope and meet the animal in his/her habitat on equal terms.
Pretending to be a hunter with this kind of nonsense means you have multiple issues.
And you are sick in the head and heart.
Because animals have as much right as humans to this earth.
I hope this man and people like him die a slow, painful and horrible death.
That may help them understand the pain and suffering they cause.
You're a vegan, presumably?
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