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Old 11.03.2016, 23:56
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5 euro a day is 600 euro a month?? Do you have extra long months??
In most calendars that is 150 euro per month?
Maybe they get overtime for weekends?
But seriously, why do they get "paid" at all? If they qualify as refugee, give them basic housing and 3 meals per day (or food vouchers). Clothing can easily be covered by donations. What do they need cash payments for? Getting paid for doing nothing is unheard of in most of the Middle East and Africa. When migrant groups Twitter/Facebook pages light up with which countries are doling out the highest payments and is most welcoming, then voila, that's the new target country. I wouldn't mind living in Slovenia, but migrants just trample thru there

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almost 500,000 migrants passed Slovenia on their way to Austria and other Western European countries.
Only about 460 of those have requested asylum in Slovenia
Why? Payment there is only 18 EUR a month
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- Asylum seekers in reception centers get financial help of 18 euros per month. They are also allowed to work.
Sweden? 700EUR, more if you have kids. Germany 150-200EUR for "basic needs" (meals/housing free), and later 400EUR/month, plus 90EUR for kids. I'm sure these amounts probably seem pretty good for people coming from ME/Africa. And they don't even have to work for it, they are just given the money.

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"showing a brown dude doing a white lady is acceptable, but the reverse would be offensive? "
Wouldn't the reverse would be a white lady doing a brown dude?
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Old 12.03.2016, 01:33
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The same article claims the high number is due to people who need money to support their families and to pay their debts to smugglers who brought them there.
Is that supposed to be some kind of excuse?
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Old 12.03.2016, 01:35
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Is that supposed to be some kind of excuse? Are you serious?
No excuse, it is a fact; I know they are quite rare here so hard to recognise

If you were in a country with no job and no permit to permit you to get a job while your family was in another country and bordering on starvation then....
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Sweden? 700EUR, more if you have kids. Germany 150-200EUR for "basic needs" (meals/housing free), and later 400EUR/month, plus 90EUR for kids. I'm sure these amounts probably seem pretty good for people coming from ME/Africa. And they don't even have to work for it, they are just given the money.
Not sufficient, according to Marton.

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Wouldn't the reverse would be a white lady doing a brown dude?
How imprudent from German authorities. The refugees will start thinking that part of the integration is doing a white lady.
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Old 12.03.2016, 10:07
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How imprudent from German authorities. The refugees will start thinking that part of the integration is doing a white lady.
Only in missionary position though.

Frankly they should have shown both ie. brown doing white and white doing brown. Not in the same image or it would look like an orgy

One way PCness I don't like.
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Surprising that there's no backlash from the LGBT crowd for not being represented...
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Surprising that there's no backlash from the LGBT crowd for not being represented...
The website should include info regading the fact that being gay is acceptable in Western Europe in general and not haram.
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The website should include info regading the fact that being gay is acceptable in Western Europe in general and not haram.

They have written that HIV infection happens mostly during vaginal and anal sex. They should add that the anal one is about 18x riskier, mostly the "receiving" part, and certain milieus are literally plagued by HIV it so a condom use is a must.
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If you were in a country with no job and no permit to permit you to get a job while your family was in another country and bordering on starvation then....

then ...
You go to the local swimming pool and train stations to look for young European girls who you can sexually harass. You know, because that somehow helps your plight and helps your family who you left back in the warzone.
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Old 12.03.2016, 17:36
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then ...
You go to the local swimming pool and train stations to look for young European girls who you can sexually harass. You know, because that somehow helps your plight and helps your family who you left back in the warzone.

Lets not kid ourselves that west has been a shining light against sexual harassment. There's still a huge amount of men who think not being able to harass women is due to "effing feminsits". Don't think it's not still going on either, just talk to any woman about what goes on online.

We no longer think it's ok for groups of guys to harass women, but that's a very recent thing, and we all know a lot of countries haven't caught on yet.

And what about westerners going on their little sex tours to other countries, because we still live in a culture were we sexualise other cultures. And there's threads on this forum from women being harassed by the swiss for being other than white.

I'm not excusing it, and don't think there should be any leniency, but it's the actions of a minority, I wouldn't want to be judged by the standards of lecherous old men or horny jocks.
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Lets not kid ourselves that west has been a shining light against sexual harassment.
When compared to the Middle East and North Afrrica, the West has been a shining light against sexual harassment.

If you think the Middle East is even on the same level as Europe when it comes to sexual harassment and womens rights you are the only one who is kidding yourself.
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Old 12.03.2016, 17:54
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When compared to the Middle East and North Afrrica, the West has been a shining light against sexual harassment.

If you think the Middle East is even on the same level as Europe when it comes to sexual harassment and womens rights you are the only one who is kidding yourself.
Did you not read, or don't you understand past tense?
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Old 12.03.2016, 17:59
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When compared to the Middle East and North Afrrica, the West has been a shining light against sexual harassment.

If you think the Middle East is even on the same level as Europe when it comes to sexual harassment and womens rights you are the only one who is kidding yourself.
No credible source for your view as usual?
I quote " "Swiss Child Protection Association claims that up to 25% of women and 10% of men in Switzerland have experienced sexual abuse during childhood."
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No credible source for your view as usual?
I quote " "Swiss Child Protection Association claims that up to 25% of women and 10% of men in Switzerland have experienced sexual abuse during childhood."
Now you are being funny. Sexual harrassment is not even defined in the Penal Code of some countries. Even when it is, the police deters victims from pressing charges.
An interesting article here.
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http://www.economist.com/news/middle...ut-it-slapping
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Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany

A few choice quotes from an article detailing womens rights in MENA:

''The Gulf countries were the worst performers in nearly all subject areas examined in the 2005 Freedom House study Women’s Rights in the Middle East and North Africa: Citizenship and Justice, scoring particularly poorly in the categories analyzing legal rights and protection from discrimination, political rights, as well as women’s personal status and autonomy''

''The country reports presented in this edition detail how women throughout the Gulf continue to face systematic discrimination in both laws and social customs. Deeply entrenched societal norms, combined with conservative interpretations of Islamic law, continue to relegate women to a subordinate status''

''The Gulf region, and the Middle East as a whole, is not the only region of the world where women experience inequality. In Asia, Africa, Latin America, Europe, and North America, women continue to face discrimination and significant barriers to the full realization of their rights. It is in the Gulf, however, that the gap between the rights of men and those of women has been most clear and substantial''


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Old 12.03.2016, 19:19
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Now you are being funny. Sexual harrassment is not even defined in the Penal Code of some countries. Even when it is, the police deters victims from pressing charges.
An interesting article here.

http://www.economist.com/news/middle...ut-it-slapping
The same from a western country http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-7561636.html
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Nobody has said that Western countries are perfect or without fault.
Rather we're suggesting that whilst we are not perfect or faultless, we are miles ahead of the Middle East and North Africa, specifically in regards to womens rights.

Would you not agree?
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Sexual harassment and other crimes exists toady in the western world, it's shoved under the carpet, when people try to talk about it, it gets shouted down. Migrants provide an easy way to shift the blame onto something we don't want to address in our own culture. Try and talk about rape culture anywhere online and see a multitude of men shout down how it doesn't exist but women should just accept harrasment as part and parcel of everyday life.

Go look at any comment section where any woman ever talks about the west being anything less than perfect when it comes sexual equality.
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Nobody has said that Western countries are perfect or without fault.
Rather we're suggesting that whilst we are not perfect or faultless, we are miles ahead of the Middle East and North Africa, specifically in regards to womens rights.

Would you not agree?
Miles ahead is a relative term, inches might be more appropriate.
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Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany

Interesting results from the German regional elections.

Firstly there was a very high turnout; up to 70% in all three areas.

The AfD had a very good day winning 61 seats, clearly the refugee effect.

Not a good day for the CDU who lost 30 seats; bad but not the disaster many were forecasting, they are still the largest party in these three areas.

Strangely the SPD who were distancing themselves from the refugee affair lost 22 seats which in percentage terms is roughly the same as the CDU.

The Greens who strongly supported Merkel's refugee policy only lost 6 seats.
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