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Yeah, It was a lovely place, full of nuclear church-going families and white picket fences, until those gosh darned refugees came.
It was a student city where young women could have a night out and walk home alone without fear of being raped and murdered.
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It was a student city where young women could have a night out and walk home alone without fear of being raped and murdered.

So naive. Said like a man who has no idea what it means to be a woman.

There isn't a city like that on earth.
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So naive. Said like a man who has no idea what it means to be a woman.

There isn't a city like that on earth.
*said after women raped and murdered in a city after going home alone after a night out*
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Guilty until proven innocent!
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Guilty until proven innocent!
The police seem to think it's open and shut. DNA more or less nails him.

This isn't going down well in Germany, as is to be expected.
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Guilty until proven innocent!
I'm sure his DNA was on her as they were just friends and in regular contact. Or something.
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Guilty until proven innocent!
pleaded guilty to the murder already...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-refugee-Aghan
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Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany

I am in Freiburg right now and the local press is going into overdrive playing the situation down.

You know, young women shouldn't ride bikes at night. They're only asking for it etc etc. And because some rapists are German, Germans shouldn't condemn rapists.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Now just imagine if a German had raped and murdered a refugee girl. There would be a totally different reaction.
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Why shouldn't a woman ride her bike at night? She certainly isn't asking for it. Isn't this the sort of apologetic rhetoric that let the Nazis get away with so much?
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Guilty until proven innocent!
To be fair, what I've read indicates that he has admitted it and will likely be pleading guilty. Absolutely horrific case, and we shall wait and see.
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Now just imagine if a German had raped and murdered a refugee girl. There would be a totally different reaction.
No, imagine if a French Christian exchange student staying with a local family had admitted the crime. Then you would get a sense of the contrast between how refugees and FMOP are reported.

This will run and run now that the World's media has picked the story up, and also because of the standing of Maria's father.
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Why shouldn't a woman ride her bike at night? She certainly isn't asking for it. Isn't this the sort of apologetic rhetoric that let the Nazis get away with so much?
Maria was a beautiful young girl and clearly believed that she was relatively safe riding her bike home in the early hours. I doubt she would have walked it home. Unfortunately it's a simple fact of life and maturity, that even an old fogey like me, would have to be very sure of myself to walk home (which I have done many times but usually legally 'armed') or would call a taxi from a firm that I know well.

This reminds me of the murder of Alice Gross in West London two years ago.
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No, imagine if a French Christian exchange student staying with a local family had admitted the crime. Then you would get a sense of the contrast between how refugees and FMOP are reported.

This will run and run now that the World's media has picked the story up, and also because of the standing of Maria's father.
So far I cant find anything on BBC about it - just what some others here have branded "the right wing media" websites.... which just adds to the sense of biased non-reporting.
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So far I cant find anything on BBC about it - just what some others here have branded "the right wing media" websites.... which just adds to the sense of biased non-reporting.
I've almost given up on using the BBC as a news source because they are horrendously slow in breaking a story. They're fine for commentary after the event, but that's it. This comes from spending 2014 & 2015 in an office with a bank of about 16 tvs on the end wall, each one tuned into a different news station. Two Malaysian and one Germanwings plane crash, and Charlie Hebdo later, I realised that there's a significant delay in breaking any news story that doesn't originate out of Downing Street.

Edit: The Mirror are carrying the story. Quite tellingly, a Google search of ' Maria Ladenburger' brings up current news stories and this at the bottom of the page...

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How are you implementing the recent Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) decision on the right to be forgotten?
Her poor parents have (rightly) removed online references other than reporting of the case.

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Afghans aren't refugees and have no business being in Germany (they're about to deport 20,000 of them).

I don't know what's worse, the fact that Merkel is partly responsible for this poor girl's death, or that she'll more than likely get voted back into office next year.
That is the real point. Merkel invited Syrian refugees but many of the more serious crimes are committed by people who have no business to be there.

It is hard to blame Merkel for all of the failures of the EU external borders to keep out non refugees?

For example about the events last New Year
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Of these, 17 were said by the Interior Ministry to be from Algeria or Morocco. Two Germans and one U.S. citizen were among the suspects identified.
An additional 19 suspects were later identified by Cologne's police as being "almost exclusively" migrants. Of the 19 suspects identified on 11 January, 14 were men from Morocco and Algeria.
Ten of the 19 were asylum seekers, nine of whom had arrived in Germany after September 2015; the other nine suspects may have been residing in the country illegally
By 6 April, the number of suspects in Cologne was 153, 149 of whom were non-Germans; 103 of the 153 suspects were from Morocco or Algeria"
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That is the real point. Merkel invited Syrian refugees but many of the more serious crimes are committed by people who have no business to be there.

It is hard to blame Merkel for all of the failures of the EU external borders to keep out non refugees?
Unless she is the head of state and promised to hunt down those responsible for those crimes and punish them which she cleary has not done nor has her government ensured that only genuine Syrian refugees found their way into Germany.
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Why shouldn't a woman ride her bike at night? She certainly isn't asking for it. Isn't this the sort of apologetic rhetoric that let the Nazis get away with so much?
My point exactly.

Normally is some old fogey politician made a remqrk like this, the feminists would be up in arms and asking for his head on a plate.

But In this case their silence is deafening.

Interesting what you say about the nazis being apologists for immigrant criminality
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Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany

Anyone remember the 17 year Swiss female language student who was murdered in Galway City, Ireland 2007? She was walking back home when she was attacked and murdered by a violent and very dangerous piece of low life - Irish guy. It came to mind just now as it is very similar to the brutal death of this poor girl in Freiburg.

Anyway, my point here is that the Irish public, the media, police, local and national government were horrified and very vocal - it was never off the news. They caught the murderer soon after; he will never see the light of day again. Folks and students in Galway city, indeed the whole country, paid their deep respects to the dead girl and her family.. and again were incredibly vocal with almost shame that this had happened to a young girl visiting from CH.

It's an insult and disgrace to hush this up, no matter who committed the crime.

I hope there is just a delay in reporting it.
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Unless she is the head of state and promised to hunt down those responsible for those crimes and punish them which she cleary has not done nor has her government ensured that only genuine Syrian refugees found their way into Germany.
" nor has her government ensured that only genuine Syrian refugees found their way into Germany." The whole point of the Schengen agreement is that it relies on proper policing of the EU external borders consequently there are practically no controls at the German borders!
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Anyone remember the 17 year Swiss female language student who was murdered in Galway City, Ireland 2007? She was walking back home when she was attacked and murdered by a violent and very dangerous piece of low life - Irish guy. It came to mind just now as it is very similar to the brutal death of this poor girl in Freiburg.

Anyway, my point here is that the Irish public, the media, police, local and national government were horrified and very vocal - it was never off the news. They caught the murderer soon after; he will never see the light of day again. Folks and students in Galway city, indeed the whole country, paid their deep respects to the dead girl and her family.. and again were incredibly vocal with almost shame that this had happened to a young girl visiting from CH.

It's an insult and disgrace to hush this up, no matter who committed the crime.

I hope there is just a delay in reporting it.
"I hope there is just a delay in reporting it."
A google search for "news" about the brutal death of this poor girl in Freiburg brings up two pages of links so no delay?
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