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Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

According to this newspaper article, changes will take affect from April 2016,
low income Non EU(like Australians, Indians), will have to earn at least 35000 GBP a year to be allowed settle in the UK for longer then 6 years.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...19-gm9ipy.html

There is a petition on the way , it reached already 70000 signatures, they need another 30000 signatures, then that matter will be discussed in parliament.
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Re: Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

Also legislation brought in the last year or two requires that you must be earning more than ~GBP 20k to bring a foreign spouse to the UK...a friend of mine who has been teaching in Vietnam for the past few years (and obv earning less than that) has just had a baby, wants to move home to the UK, but can't with her husband and child!
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Old 20.01.2016, 09:15
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Re: Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

Sad and tragic for the person like with your friend, but the system of free money put in place in the liberalalala socialist sixties and seventies was abused by far too many far too long, and now the barrel is empty, like the great late Maggie T said:
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money."
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Also legislation brought in the last year or two requires that you must be earning more than ~GBP 20k to bring a foreign spouse to the UK...a friend of mine who has been teaching in Vietnam for the past few years (and obv earning less than that) has just had a baby, wants to move home to the UK, but can't with her husband and child!
If she's a school teacher, she should be able to find a job paying 20k..

"Wherever you are in England, as a qualified teacher you'll start on a salary of at least £22,244 – or £27,819 in inner London"

Bring Dad over, he looks after baby. Simple.
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Re: Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

This is bullshit. And will do nothing to solve the immigration problem facing the UK. Why prevent a skilled Australian nurse from entering when Andrei Popa can turn up without skills or experience from Romania and eventually demand benefits.
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This is bullshit. And will do nothing to solve the immigration problem facing the UK. Why prevent a skilled Australian nurse from entering when Andrei Popa can turn up without skills or experience from Romania and eventually demand benefits.
Yes. I think 20k would be better. Then it doesn't rule out teachers and nurses etc... Or they need an exception for needed jobs like nursing/teaching.
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This is bullshit. And will do nothing to solve the immigration problem facing the UK. Why prevent a skilled Australian nurse from entering when Andrei Popa can turn up without skills or experience from Romania and eventually demand benefits.
He cannot just show up and demand benefits, the legislation is not like that. And the funny part is that is less likely that a Australian nurse will look for a job in UK, and more likely that a Romanian nurse will look for a job in UK, as it currently happens.

I know plenty of people who got a job in UK before EU, so it possible even for the Australian nurse. Inform yourself more.
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He cannot just show up and demand benefits, the legislation is not like that. And the funny part is that is less likely that a Australian nurse will look for a job in UK, and more likely that a Romanian nurse will look for a job in UK, as it currently happens.

I know plenty of people who got a job in UK before EU, so it possible even for the Australian nurse. Inform yourself more.
Eventually they can. Which is what I said.

The bottom line is the same, this legislation would keep skilled non-EU workers out whilst opening the door to every uneducated EU "citizen".
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Eventually they can. Which is what I said.

The bottom line is the same, this legislation would keep skilled non-EU workers out whilst opening the door to every uneducated EU "citizen".
Look for yourself, if you think only about the medical staff

http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/search_stats.asp


Lots of non-EU doctors too, apart from those from Romania, Poland, Spain, Hungary and Bulgaria. How did they make it if it wasn't legally possible?
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This is bullshit. And will do nothing to solve the immigration problem facing the UK. Why prevent a skilled Australian nurse from entering when Andrei Popa can turn up without skills or experience from Romania and eventually demand benefits.
Great that Cameron follows through on what he says. But it looks like misplaced priorities on metrics rather than practicality at the wrong time. Implementing this before a Brexit vote is not the best timing. Because if that goes through, they may have to walk this back, but they would have lost people by then.
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Great that Cameron follows through on what he says. But it looks like misplaced priorities on metrics rather than practicality at the wrong time. Implementing this before a Brexit vote is not the best timing. Because if that goes through, they may have to walk this back, but they would have lost people by then.
Current legislation doesn't prevent skilled non-EU to settle, phos. Rather the unskilled ones, which are also the ones who earn insufficiently according to the new proposals.
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Look for yourself, if you think only about the medical staff

http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/search_stats.asp


Lots of non-EU doctors too, apart from those from Romania, Poland, Spain, Hungary and Bulgaria. How did they make it if it wasn't legally possible?
We are talking about new legislation, which hasn't been applied yet, no?

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A nurse won't make £35k
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This is bullshit. And will do nothing to solve the immigration problem facing the UK. Why prevent a skilled Australian nurse from entering when Andrei Popa can turn up without skills or experience from Romania and eventually demand benefits.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6814841.html

I read about this earlier in the week and I think it said somewhere that a temporary exception had been made for nurses as otherwise there would be a real shortage of them. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the info again at the moment.( actually I see now it is mentioned in the independent article I linked)
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Look for yourself, if you think only about the medical staff

http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/search_stats.asp


Lots of non-EU doctors too, apart from those from Romania, Poland, Spain, Hungary and Bulgaria. How did they make it if it wasn't legally possible?
My point isn't to do with medical staff, or the EU for that matter. I welcome skilled labour from anywhere. Just make sure you send a CV first.
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Old 20.01.2016, 09:57
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Re: Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

Origin of healthcare staff:

- Children of legally established immigrants can become doctors/nurses.
- Foreign students who started and completed medical studies in the UK can get authorization to establish and work in the UK.
- Foreign doctors who came for a training and decide to stay in the UK can get a work/residence permit.
- Legal immigration from EU or doctors with specific skills from non-EU
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Current legislation doesn't prevent skilled non-EU to settle, phos. Rather the unskilled ones, which are also the ones who earn insufficiently according to the new proposals.
The expendable ones? Ah, okay, they're not the expensive.

Still looks like an EU concession that would be better used later for negotiation, but kudos to Cameron for trying to make good on what he says.
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Old 20.01.2016, 10:11
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(like Australians, Indians)
I have the strong feeling this policy was not put in place for Australians or Indians... anyone watched "The jihadi next door" on 4 yesterday?
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Re: Low income Non EU to be kicked out of the UK

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That's a pity but I don't see how is EU, or EU citizens responsible for that. It seems it was the UK government only to set this limit regardless of the field of activity and labour shortage.
And they must have known that so I'll let you judge why they did it.
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Rather the unskilled ones, which are also the ones who earn insufficiently according to the new proposals.
The problem with this proposal is it was based upon London centric figures and is completely out of touch with the wages in the country as a whole. North of London, you'll find very few teachers, nurses, etc... who earn £35k. I never earned it in the profession I worked in, and very few of my friends make that kind of money.

My OH moved south for an IT job in the banking sector that paid over the £27k he was getting in the north, and it was only his last U.K. job (outside of banking) that paid more than the required £35k. He's trebled his U.K. wage by coming back to CH.
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And they must have known that so I'll let you judge why they did it.
Pressure from The City to protect their foreign workforce and stuff the rest.
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