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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Enjoy it! I'm getting used to it now, having enjoyed a whole day of being the only pro-Brexit person most of my friends know.

Tasty nuggets include: "you disappoint me"; "hope you're happy now"; "words fail me" and, my favourite: "you didn't know any better because of your lower middle class midlands background".

The last one sums up why Remain lost more eloquently than a thousand Guardian opinion columns.

They'll get over it - but I've got a long memory.
What can I say more ..."Et tu, Brute?".
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What can I say more ..."Et tu, Brute?".
Then fall, Juncker!

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Judging by your reply and plenty of other EF posts, I think it's pretty representative (the Metro story). I do believe that those who voted for Brexit have no idea about how EU functions or about UK's advantages of being an EU member over the years.
What a total wanker you must be...I voted Brexit and have lived and worked in Europe for most of my life, I have also been a politician for over 16 years and spent many a good few hours with MEP's and EU bureaucrats....

People have voted for Leave for many different reasons....sovereignty; immigration; pressure on services; democracy etc

Rather than denigrate the way people have voted you should perhaps aim your criticisms at the European and UK politicians that have failed to convince and inform the UK public.

I am quite frankly tired of the boring and predictable way people like you are putting down people that don't share your views as if you are some sort of intellectual heavyweight and superior person.

The decision has been made to leave, there is no going back..it's called democracy, the people want out and it's now time to make it work,
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Old 24.06.2016, 23:48
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What a total wanker you must be...I voted Brexit and have lived and worked in Europe for most of my life, I have also been a politician for over 16 years and spent many a good few hours with MEP's and EU bureaucrats....

People have voted for Leave for many different reasons....sovereignty; immigration; pressure on services; democracy etc

Rather than denigrate the way people have voted you should perhaps aim your criticisms at the European and UK politicians that have failed to convince and inform the UK public.

I am quite frankly tired of the boring and predictable way people like you are putting down people that don't share your views as if you are some sort of intellectual heavyweight and superior person.

The decision has been made to leave, there is no going back..it's called democracy, the people want out and it's now time to make it work,
Destroyed the value of the £ and the stock markets world wide which are suppose to pay all our pensions.

Do remind us of the positives again.
  • sovereignty; your Majesty we voted for you
  • immigration; only half of UK immigrants came from the EU
  • pressure on services; see previous point
  • democracy; what does this mean exactly, the right to destroy value??
  • it's now time to make it work; I sincerely hope somebody knows how? the current candidates are less than convincing?
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Old 24.06.2016, 23:49
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What about Russell Brands theory that the 'candidate' with the most money wins the election,

I wonder how much each of the campaigns spent.
THAT is the problem in a nutshell.

Politics is conducted as a mind control program to implant thoughts and ideas into the minds of unsuspecting masses of drones, to get them to act, say and vote in a particular way. It may even causes people to think Russell Brand is a theorist.

Where today's political system loses the plot is that politics is suppose to be a representation of the thoughts of its people, what concerns them, and what realities they are facing. Not the effect of mind control inflicted on them. But none of the political parties bother inquire, let alone listen to people. They've labelled it populism, whereas populism is not really about listening to people, but actually in riling up people for a particular cause. EXACTLY what these established parties are doing while they point fingers at others who are tuning in to concerns of people.

I suspect it is the same demographics that is driving the growth of AfD in Germany, Trump, FN, and elsewhere. I suspect these are the same working class people who the Left have betrayed and disenfranchised by striving for the glitter and glamour of transnational politics. They forgot all about who they claimed to represent.

Well, in a way, I'm glad the Left lost the plot, as they are more dangerous with their stupidity when they have more power.
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All voters are equal, but some voters are more equal than others..
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...the decision has been made to leave, there is no going back..it's called democracy, the people want out and it's now time to make it work,
The people!? A little over 50% of the voters. Conversely to your rant, please don't make out it was a decisive victory a-la-Farrage. Nearly as many people wanted to remain and if the roles had been reversed there would be an outcry from pro-Brexit supporters.

While I agree that there should have been clearer communication around the benefits, the Brexit camp lied and obfuscated its way through the campaign hiding behind catchy numbers that were fantastic spin (350m GBP anyone?) and preyed on fears that were unrelated to EU membership (refugee queues anyone? Oh that' a UKip poster, pure coincidence, nothing to do with Brexit, you say?).

Time will tell how it pans out, but frankly I struggle to see any ray of light for a long while. I would have voted Remain but could not due to ineligibility.
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Do remind us of the positives again.[/LIST]
I didn't say there were or were not positives....I said people voted for a variety of reasons...........
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So what is going happen to our residency and permits in a couple of years? Has anything been mentioned in the local news?
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I am quite frankly tired of the boring and predictable way people like you are putting down people that don't share your views as if you are some sort of intellectual heavyweight and superior person.
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And I am tired of idiots like you. Or wankers, if you prefer. (that is describing you better, as a matter of fact)
I can accept the way you voted, but don't you dare to tell me it was an informed vote.
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And I am tired of idiots like you.
Nobody is forcing you to join in threads about British politics.
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The people!? A little over 50% of the voters. Conversely to your rant, please don't make out it was a decisive victory a-la-Farrage. Nearly as many people wanted to remain and if the roles had been reversed there would be an outcry from pro-Brexit supporters.
Did I say it was decisive??
It was a majority referendum....i.e. 1 vote could win it either way, had remain won I'm sure they would also be less than excited by the prospect of a further referendum...that was the deal and should be abided. And for the record I am in no way a Farage supporter...I'm just tired of the whinging over this referendum which has quite frankly been shite.....it's democracy, love it or loathe it...there's no alternative
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Big mistake if you ask me, god knows that EU is far away from perfect but that's the only thing that kept this god forsaken "continent" more or less peaceful (yes I know Balkan war) since WWII...

Leaving EU will not help UK at all since the market dominates most of things happening anyway, e.g. instead of some foreign workers will come to UK many companies will now relocate to low cost countries and therefore of course no foreigners will come anymore but also many many more British will be unemployed

Well, it will take 2 years until its done, so lets see what will happen...
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Brexiteers were said to be ignorant racist xenophobes conducting a campaign of hate. But I would like to see a break down of voters by race. From what I gathered, there were plenty of immigrants and non-whites who voted for Brexit.

The racist dog whistle seems to have malfunctioned this time, as it is failing in the US and other places. I think it has been worn out.
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And I am tired of idiots like you. Or wankers, if you prefer. (that is describing you better, as a matter of fact)
I can accept the way you voted, but don't you dare to tell me it was an informed vote.
Once again....do please tell me where I mentioned that I thought it was an informed vote ( although I think you mean election) ?

Perhaps you should read the posts a little more closely...other wide it could be you that appears the idiot?
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Nobody is forcing you to join in threads about British politics.
If it was only about British politics!!
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Well I for one am hoping for the complete disintegration of the EU. Hopefully NL, FR and Italy will hold votes and leave and the EU project will be finished.
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is this guy for real:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7099211.html
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While I agree that there should have been clearer communication around the benefits, the Brexit camp lied and obfuscated its way through the campaign hiding behind catchy numbers that were fantastic spin (350m GBP anyone?) and preyed on fears that were unrelated to EU membership (refugee queues anyone? Oh that' a UKip poster, pure coincidence, nothing to do with Brexit, you say?).
Wasn't it fun how it took them a a whole 6 hours to completely backtrack on the campaign promise to devote that 350m a week to the NHS
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And I am tired of idiots like you. Or wankers, if you prefer. (that is describing you better, as a matter of fact)
I can accept the way you voted, but don't you dare to tell me it was an informed vote.
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