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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 27.06.2016, 22:27
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

True colours coming out. I get the sense we are about to see the wizard, and may be shocked by what we see.

This is no time for the UK to come out conciliatory and weak. Its too late for that now. I don't see anyway for Cameron come out on Tuesday other than with his game face, strong and swinging. The UK needs to be united now more than ever. If it doesn't, it is likely to get cluster-fckd. He is going to have to show some spine.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:29
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Referendum petition hi-jacked by spambots.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36640459

Where's the Spam Deputies when you need them.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:38
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Found this funny - while the rest of Europe has been planning the scenarios since months, here the BBC summary:

After a weekend of playing cricket and planning his Tory leadership bid, Boris Johnson emerged briefly for the cameras on Monday morning.

He wanted to dispel "confusion" about the rights of European migrants living here already, but he has still to offer anything like a concrete plan on how he would negotiate the post-Brexit future.

So, for now the questions: When do we leave the EU and on what terms? Who will do the negotiations? What will it mean for immigration, for trade, for travel, for the city, for agriculture, for those from the EU living here and Brits abroad? All have no answers - and none in prospect either.
I have been watching the Wimbledon 2016 and there's no sign of Brexit stress whatsoever other than good competitive spirit as usual.

And of course everyone is eyeing the soccer game against Iceland, as we speak, so the above topic is of second priority right now.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:39
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I have been watching the Wimbledon 2016 and there's no sign of Brexit stress whatsoever other than good competitive spirit as usual.

And of course everyone is eyeing the soccer game against Iceland, as we speak, so the above topic is of second priority right now.
Speak for yourself - I watch neither.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:39
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... and the lies from Boris continue http://news.sky.com/story/1717965/bo...ets-are-stable
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:42
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hahaha
Just for fun: You know France... even the communists voted for Chirac rather than Le Pen. It will be the same with the daughter. The concept of front républicain is totally un-understandable for non-French, I know. The alternative: Let's say that France think of itself as the inspiration, the DNA and the origin of all democracy and european peace incl. the EU, so for France, even leaving the EU would leave the EU in France.
Well, it's true.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:42
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Now this is a bit long, but says how some of us feel:

https://katyboo1.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/happy-now/
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:45
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Now this is a bit long, but says how some of us feel:

https://katyboo1.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/happy-now/
How do you feel? Like painting buses?
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:46
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Utter nonsense.

I googled this and the only places it shows up on is conspiracy BS sites like zerohedge.

Its a tragedy that an event that changes the path of the UK is decided based on rumors and nonsense such as this. Democracy deserves informed debate.

Edit: On a bit of digging the "source" seems to be a twitter post in Italian with the words pasted alongside an older photo of Schulz
https://twitter.com/gzibordi/status/747242697119891457

Pathetic
Informed debate is for the people who want to be informed. Some of them are always ready to accept any rumour and non sense. End of. I think Faltrad was right in the end: a vote is a vote.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:47
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To be honest, I'd expected more than the British electorate and voting system came up with.
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:56
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Someone commented in the Guardian that the age related voting stats are as follows:

Brexit voter turnout by age:
** 18-24: 36% **
25-34: 58%
35-44: 72%
45-54: 75%
55-64: 81%
65+: 83%

Is this backed up by any reliable data?

If you add them up and divide by 6 it comes to 67.5
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Old 27.06.2016, 22:58
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Now this is a bit long, but says how some of us feel:

https://katyboo1.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/happy-now/

Odile,


You're right, it is long. I am sure that she expressed some of what you feel. But I have to ask, why did she only join a political party AFTER Brexit? Did she even vote before that?


My kids often expressed a criticism of some political decision here. I always ask them if they voted. When they answered "No" I would then say


"Then you have absolutely no right whatsoever to an opinion, and I see no point in discussing the issue with you. Once you vote you have a right to an opinion, and I will discuss with you until you wish you hadn't voted... but in the meantime, your voice doesn't count."



One took a bit longer than the other to figure it out.
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Totally agree on that point- And exactly what I have written to some of my young friends on FB who have been complaining bitterly. Same as young people here in February 2014.
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Old 27.06.2016, 23:10
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The next step in the Brexit is taking place right now against Iceland: England is voluntarily playing bad so that they are out of the tournament
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Old 27.06.2016, 23:13
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Someone commented in the Guardian that the age related voting stats are as follows:

Brexit voter turnout by age:
** 18-24: 36% **
25-34: 58%
35-44: 72%
45-54: 75%
55-64: 81%
65+: 83%

Is this backed up by any reliable data?

If you add them up and divide by 6 it comes to 67.5
You only divide by 6 if there were the same number of people in each group; otherwise you have to adjust each row depending on the population.
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The next step in the Brexit is taking place right now against Iceland: England is voluntarily playing bad so that they are out of the tournament
We can also send them the bus to pick them up
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Old 27.06.2016, 23:20
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... and the lies from Boris continue http://news.sky.com/story/1717965/bo...ets-are-stable
Boris wrote an article in the Telegraph today "I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe – and always will be "

Source
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Old 27.06.2016, 23:28
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Marton,


Boris had a window seat in Geography.
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We can also send them the bus to pick them up
The bus isn't available. Corbyn has it.

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Old 27.06.2016, 23:56
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The next step in the Brexit is taking place right now against Iceland: England is voluntarily playing bad so that they are out of the tournament
And gone. Due punishment.
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