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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 22.07.2016, 06:33
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Valls


Mr Hollande is PRESIDENT DE LA REPUBLIQUE. Interestng is that the mum of Prime Minister Vals was a Born Miss GALFETTI of TICINO origin
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From Hollande (French premier) today;
"“None can be separated from the other. There cannot be freedom of movement of goods, free movement of capital, free movement of services if there isn’t a free movement of people … It will be a choice facing the UK – remain in the single market and then assume the free movement that goes with it or to have another status.”"

"Hollande became the first EU leader to guarantee that British people living in France would be allowed to stay in his country once the UK’s exit negotiations conclude.

“There is no doubt that the French people who reside in the UK will be able to continue to work there and that the British people in France will be able to continue to work there and spend as much time as they wish,” he said."

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Theresa May and Francois Hollande agree that border controls in Calais will stay despite Brexit

Project Fear going well.

As an aside, Hollande won't be President when Brexit get's negotiated so I don't know if we can take anything he says seriously.
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Old 22.07.2016, 11:47
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What was all the fuss about?
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Old 22.07.2016, 12:08
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As an aside, Hollande won't be President when Brexit get's negotiated so I don't know if we can take anything he says seriously.
Read closely:
He conditions his part on mutuality for his fellow countrymen
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Old 22.07.2016, 12:27
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Throughout this time, Hollande rarely acted like he represented the interests of French people anyway. He seems to consider half of them as is enemies. That is why his approval rating is less than 20%.

You see this same enmity between government elites and its people all throughout EU countries. You have governments that aren't serving and representing its own people. The situation is quite retarded.

I suspect there will be a coordinated effort to try to prevent referendums, lest the voice of the people actually get heard. The EU and their puppet governments hate democracy.
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Old 22.07.2016, 16:26
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One IMF report; two different views!

The International Monetary Fund has slashed its forecast for UK growth next year after warning that the decision to leave the EU had damaged the British economy’s short-term prospects and “thrown a spanner in the works” of the global recovery.

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Interesting the Express describes the report as written by BUNGLING International Monetary Fund officials but still believes the forecast
Not sure if this is relevant;
"Special court to try IMF chief over €400m payout to businessman who backed Nicolas Sarkozy in 2007 presidential race"

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Old 22.07.2016, 16:28
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Throughout this time, Hollande rarely acted like he represented the interests of French people anyway. He seems to consider half of them as is enemies. That is why his approval rating is less than 20%.

You see this same enmity between government elites and its people all throughout EU countries. You have governments that aren't serving and representing its own people. The situation is quite retarded.

I suspect there will be a coordinated effort to try to prevent referendums, lest the voice of the people actually get heard. The EU and their puppet governments hate democracy.
Unlike Turkey and Russia where their Presidents have very high approval ratings.

Now let me think; which country would I like to live in
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Old 22.07.2016, 16:53
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Brexit causes dramatic drop in UK economy, data suggests

Chancellor may 'reset' economic policy in Autumn Statement

As a contrast to some of the other headlines being posted, Just saying....

In reality it will be 5 or 10 years before any proper conclusion can be drawn.
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Old 22.07.2016, 17:12
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Theresa May and Francois Hollande agree that border controls in Calais will stay despite Brexit

Project Fear going well.

As an aside, Hollande won't be President when Brexit get's negotiated so I don't know if we can take anything he says seriously.
French presidential elections will be in April/May next year. So you believe UK should not talk to France before then?

Hollande is eligible to stand again!

German presidential elections will likely be in Autumn next year.
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Old 22.07.2016, 17:17
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French presidential elections will be in April/May next year. So you believe UK should not talk to France before then?

Hollande is eligible to stand again!

German presidential elections will likely be in Autumn next year.
Not at all, the more talks now the better. Just wanted to make the point that anything Hollande promises may not happen as he's unlikely to be president after next election. Latest polls have Sarkozy and Le Pen way out in front.

https://twitter.com/europeelects/sta...40010971283456
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Old 22.07.2016, 17:43
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the oldest Bilterals were those with the German Empire of Emperor Wilhelm II signed in 1912 which included Basel Bad, Bhf + Bhf Schaffhausen etc which are still in force
And as everyone knows, the EU is the German Empire of today .....
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Latest polls have Sarkozy and Le Pen way out in front.
Freakin' 'ell! Trump in the US and Le Pen in France... Even Theresa May would flinch at that prospect.
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I think it is because the mentioned businessman, Bernard Tapie, was sentenced for embezzlement and bribery, among other things. While he owned Olympique Marseille, the club won the national championship in 1993 but the title was nixed because games had been rigged. In the early '90ies he bought the majority of Adidas, but apparently got betrayed/ripped off by bank Credit Lyonnais, which he had instructed to sell the stock.

In 2005 Tapie was assigned €135mln in damages for the rip-off but that verdict was appealed and revoked. The case was then handled by a court of arbitration, which in july 2008 assigned Tapie €403mln including 118mln interest; the decision to have it handled by a court of appeals had been taken by then minister of economy Mrs Lagarde, was heavily criticized at that time already. In 2011 a formal prosecution was opened that lead to searches of Mrs Lagarde's home, among other things.

Now, the intersting point is that in 2007 and again in 2012 Tapie contributed to Mr Sarkozy's presidential campaign. Mr Tapie however had always been and still was at that time, member of left parties, even member of a left government in the '90ies under Miterrand, whereas Mrs Lagarde was part of a conservative government. Why would a left support a conservative presidential candidate?

Sauhäfeli, Saudeckeli?
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Old 22.07.2016, 19:37
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And as everyone knows, the EU is the German Empire of today .....

the German Empire never became democratic
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Latest polls have Sarkozy and Le Pen way out in front.
https://twitter.com/europeelects/sta...40010971283456
Sarkozy wants to come back? German Angie must be all fluttering
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the German Empire never became democratic
exactly
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Sarkozy wants to come back? German Angie must be all fluttering

Mr Hollande is boring


mR Sarkozy will be the next president
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Mr Hollande is boring


mR Sarkozy will be the next president
Ain't he just <yaaawn>
Well, if the choice is between Sarkozy and Le Pen, yes definitely Sarkozy .... as much as I would like a Fradieu .... not at that price.
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Mr Hollande is boring


mR Sarkozy will be the next president
More of a struggle without the possibiliy of Gadaffi funding his campaign
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German presidential elections will likely be in Autumn next year.
What's the German president got to do with anything? His role is largely representative and ribbon cutting.
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