Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #4941  
Old 31.08.2016, 12:54
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geneva
Posts: 467
Groaned at 33 Times in 22 Posts
Thanked 700 Times in 410 Posts
Reb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
He "fought" this battle in the UK, not in the EU Parliament, while cashing in a "fat EU bureaucrat salary". Oh, the irony.
I believe his supporters admire him for playing the system.
Quote:
This guy is so dubious/(shady, crook? I guess this is the word I'm looking for), I can't understand for the life of me how he made it in the UK politics.
I suppose he's charismatic in that he's an articulate and forceful speaker. He also validates certain views, putting out his "Breaking point" poster for example, but also reminding everyone that "decent" people voted Leave. He seems to have used the same word at the Trump rally.
[victory for Leave] was for “the real people, for the ordinary people, for the decent people”
Nigel Farage at Trump Rally: Anything Is Possible If Enough Decent People Fight the Establishment
Some people will buy anything, especially if the seller is persuasive enough.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Reb77Br for this useful post:
  #4942  
Old 31.08.2016, 12:57
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 9,688
Groaned at 73 Times in 66 Posts
Thanked 14,748 Times in 5,754 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
He probably feels its money they've swindled from other countries anyway. And from the salary someone posted, we have low level managers that earn much more than that. I don't really think drawing that money for his position is really as damning.
Actually, trousering the money, even if you disagree with its source, is also not the noble thing to do. Donate it to your campaign or give it to the home for retired donkeys. Whatever makes it look like you're serious.

Quote:
View Post

Let's get to the meat of the matter. Could anyone point out the lies Farage have made, other than the NHS campaign which was covered?
Farage already distanced himself from the NHS thing, apparently that was someone else in UKIP that put that one out, although it didn't stop him hitching a ride on the battle bus with it plastered on the side.

I think "lies" are over-doing it a bit (and are a bit shouty tabloid headline). They were more "bending the truth" about things like costs of being in the EU whilst not really mentioning the rebates and funding the UK gets. Immigration figures were massaged to lump in any bugger who had come to the UK to work or live in the UK from the illegals sneaking across in lorries pocketing benefits to the top Swedish ophthalmic consultant.

Not strictly "untrue" but written in the worst possible light to get people to fill in those gaps you mention.

Plus, as I mentioned earlier, you would be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the campaigning putting their name to any of the "facts and stats". Except maybe Boris and his bus.
__________________
“A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.” – Bob Dylan
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #4943  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:12
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Marton, try to do a quick count of how many of your responses are directed at me rather than the point I make. This is one. I don't even bother responding to them as they tend to divert from the point. But its true that its much easier to convey a picture with a few words when I'm bored.
Well if you post in a forum then you always run the risk that another forum member will reply

Quote:
View Post
........
Let's get to the meat of the matter. Could anyone point out the lies Farage have made, other than the NHS campaign which was covered?
The former Prime Minister of Belgium has accused Nigel Farage of lying on migration, Turkey and the NHS in a heated European Parliament debate on the Brexit.

Source

Guy Verhofstadt, told the Ukip leader: “Finally we will be getting rid of the biggest waste in the EU budget – that we have paid for 17 years of your salary.”

Or an article here claims to list six lies written by Farage in an Express article!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #4944  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:16
Phos's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ZRH
Posts: 7,177
Groaned at 462 Times in 350 Posts
Thanked 9,364 Times in 4,926 Posts
Phos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
The former Prime Minister of Belgium has accused Nigel Farage of lying on migration, Turkey and the NHS in a heated European Parliament debate on the Brexit.

Source

Guy Verhofstadt, told the Ukip leader: “Finally we will be getting rid of the biggest waste in the EU budget – that we have paid for 17 years of your salary.”

Or an article here claims to list six lies written by Farage in an Express article!
They count 6. Imagine if they count Hillary and Trump's lies. As well as Cameron, Merkel, Juncker, etc.

It use to be the job of journalists to track them, until their jobs became political punditry. It would be great for a new honest media or watch group to track all of them impartially.
Reply With Quote
  #4945  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:29
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geneva
Posts: 467
Groaned at 33 Times in 22 Posts
Thanked 700 Times in 410 Posts
Reb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Regarding lies, how true is it that immigrants are a significant cause of pressure on public services?

"UKIP believes immigration is far too high.
Seven million immigrants came to live in Britain under the last Labour government and another two million have arrived under the Tories.
The pressure on housing and on public services such as schools, hospitals, transport networks, power and water supplies, is far too great. We must control immigration."

UKIP manifesto summary

Are these figures accurate and how many people died during that period?

"Immigration will continue out of control putting public services like the NHS under strain"
Leave campaign literature

Is immigration really "out of control" and putting public services under significant strain? Why do they just refer to "immigration" and not "EU immigration"?

"Controlling" EU immigration was a major plank of the Leave campaign (unlike UKIP's use of the word above, which seems to mean "reduce", as it is combined with the claim that immigration is "far too high", Johnson/Stuart/Leadsom did not say they planned to reduce immigration and dodged that question during the Wembley debate). EU immigrants apparently account for around 3 million of a population of around 60 million, or 5% (source). It's hard to see how 5% of the population can be the root cause of pressure on public services.


So I think this is a lie that taps into xenophobia. "Let's control immigration" = "you don't like foreigners? neither do we, so vote for us"

Last edited by Reb77Br; 31.08.2016 at 13:41.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Reb77Br for this useful post:
  #4946  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:30
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 984
Groaned at 44 Times in 40 Posts
Thanked 2,566 Times in 1,170 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
But that was a poll from last June about how well Farage was managing the job of leading UKIP (nothing about his popularity); but he has now resigned from that job so this poll no longer has any relevance
I can honestly say, of all my friends, family and acquaintances, I can count on one hand the number of people who would disagree with Adam Hills' exceptionally eloquent assessment of Farage. And don't even dream of dissing Adam Hills. He's firmly in the Louis Theroux club of thinking women's top totty.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNeWQlpjso
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #4947  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:44
Phos's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ZRH
Posts: 7,177
Groaned at 462 Times in 350 Posts
Thanked 9,364 Times in 4,926 Posts
Phos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond reputePhos has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
So I think this is a lie that taps into xenophobia. "Let's control immigration" = "you don't like foreigners? neither do we, so vote for us"
Is this truly a lie or projection and analysis of future uncontrolled immigration?
Reply With Quote
  #4948  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:48
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 14
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts
Cornerstone has no particular reputation at present
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

We all know that both Brexit & remain campaigns were lacking in so many ways but the continued self righteous remainers have now proved they don't beleive in demecoracy & only hold their views & opinions as gospel. Remainers,Liberal lefties have a closed brain to anything that they don't think or feel. On the odd occasion you can get to start some sort of debt or discussion with one of these types they will soon close down & return to calling you & everyone else that has a different opinion to them "thick,ignorant,racisit & homophobic"!!
There is nothing you can do or say to these people to make them even glimpse at other possibilities,opinions or views..
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Cornerstone for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at Cornerstone for this post:
  #4949  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:49
JagWaugh's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 3,987
Groaned at 31 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 7,233 Times in 2,914 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Is this truly a lie or projection and analysis of future uncontrolled immigration?
Wouldn't that depend on the accuracy of his, and your, crystal ball?
Reply With Quote
  #4950  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:58
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vaud
Posts: 3,621
Groaned at 456 Times in 291 Posts
Thanked 2,958 Times in 1,475 Posts
CorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
I can honestly say, of all my friends, family and acquaintances, I can count on one hand the number of people who would disagree with Adam Hills' exceptionally eloquent assessment of Farage. And don't even dream of dissing Adam Hills. He's firmly in the Louis Theroux club of thinking women's top totty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNeWQlpjso
First quantity does not mean quality- No offense intended here.

Second, it's the first time I see this "adam hills". I have mixed feelings between watching a rude person, a clown, or both.

Now as for the content, I see some personal comments about Mr Farage smoking, which is like Gossip level +500.
The rest is some debatable generalization or petty comments.

I could make a far more accurate and sour show about some of my colleagues, and get everyone in the office to agree. That would not make my performance any valuable or putting in doubts my colleagues' daily actions or work performance or alleged professional results.

I think the video was intended to be mix between caricature and funny. I am not offended by it but I doubt it can be a fair professional recommendation on Mr Farage.
As for the comedy side, it's like some pathetic gossip show for the trendy TV losers, definitely not my type of humor.

Shame coming from UK who have a ton of excellent humorists like Ricky Gervais , Rik Mayall, etc... why naming a few while there are so many?
Reply With Quote
  #4951  
Old 31.08.2016, 13:59
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 14
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts
Cornerstone has no particular reputation at present
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

And how many lies were told by Cameron & his remain minions?!
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Cornerstone for this useful post:
  #4952  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:02
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 9,688
Groaned at 73 Times in 66 Posts
Thanked 14,748 Times in 5,754 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
We all know that both Brexit & remain campaigns were lacking in so many ways but the continued self righteous remainers have now proved they don't beleive in demecoracy & only hold their views & opinions as gospel. Remainers,Liberal lefties have a closed brain to anything that they don't think or feel. On the odd occasion you can get to start some sort of debt or discussion with one of these types they will soon close down & return to calling you & everyone else that has a different opinion to them "thick,ignorant,racisit & homophobic"!!
There is nothing you can do or say to these people to make them even glimpse at other possibilities,opinions or views..
To be fair, I'm not sure you can label all remainers as left voters in the same way not all Brexiters were typically right of the political spectrum.

But welcome to the forum, anyway.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #4953  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:13
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 14
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts
Cornerstone has no particular reputation at present
Quote:
View Post
To be fair, I'm not sure you can label all remainers as left voters in the same way not all Brexiters were typically right of the political spectrum.

But welcome to the forum, anyway.
That is why I wrote "remainers,liberals & LEFTIES" so they all have their own catagories(even though it is wrong to generalise);-)!?!

Quote:
View Post
That is why I wrote "remainers,liberals & LEFTIES" so they all have their own catagories(even though it is wrong to generalise);-)!?!
Ps. Sorry I left out the other common catch phrase used to discribe Brexit voters by remainers etc., "Nazis"

Last edited by 3Wishes; 31.08.2016 at 19:08. Reason: merging consecutive replies
Reply With Quote
  #4954  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:26
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
We all know that both Brexit & remain campaigns were lacking in so many ways but the continued self righteous remainers have now proved they don't beleive in demecoracy & only hold their views & opinions as gospel. Remainers,Liberal lefties have a closed brain to anything that they don't think or feel. On the odd occasion you can get to start some sort of debt or discussion with one of these types they will soon close down & return to calling you & everyone else that has a different opinion to them "thick,ignorant,racisit & homophobic"!!
There is nothing you can do or say to these people to make them even glimpse at other possibilities,opinions or views..
"thick,ignorant" well if you want to avoid giving people such a false perception you could try investing in a spell checker?

Maybe also a grammar checker and think about using paragraphs?

Please can you explain what you mean by "to start some sort of debt"? You want to borrow money from Remainers?

Anyway welcome to the Forum; there is an introduction section here.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #4955  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:27
baboon's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 2,468
Groaned at 73 Times in 64 Posts
Thanked 2,942 Times in 1,468 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
We all know that both Brexit & remain campaigns were lacking in so many ways but the continued self righteous remainers have now proved they don't beleive in demecoracy & only hold their views & opinions as gospel. Remainers,Liberal lefties have a closed brain to anything that they don't think or feel. On the odd occasion you can get to start some sort of debt or discussion with one of these types they will soon close down & return to calling you & everyone else that has a different opinion to them "thick,ignorant,racisit & homophobic"!!
There is nothing you can do or say to these people to make them even glimpse at other possibilities,opinions or views..
So completely unlike Farage who, shortly after the polls closed and when he thought he had lost, promised to fight for a second referendum?
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank baboon for this useful post:
  #4956  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:29
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 7,522
Groaned at 164 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 8,548 Times in 4,684 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
First quantity does not mean quality- No offense intended here.

Second, it's the first time I see this "adam hills". I have mixed feelings between watching a rude person, a clown, or both.

Now as for the content, I see some personal comments about Mr Farage smoking, which is like Gossip level +500.
The rest is some debatable generalization or petty comments.

I could make a far more accurate and sour show about some of my colleagues, and get everyone in the office to agree. That would not make my performance any valuable or putting in doubts my colleagues' daily actions or work performance or alleged professional results.

I think the video was intended to be mix between caricature and funny. I am not offended by it but I doubt it can be a fair professional recommendation on Mr Farage.
As for the comedy side, it's like some pathetic gossip show for the trendy TV losers, definitely not my type of humor.

Shame coming from UK who have a ton of excellent humorists like Ricky Gervais , Rik Mayall, etc... why naming a few while there are so many?
"First quantity does not mean quality" You are now describing the Brexit voters?
Reply With Quote
  #4957  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:35
baboon's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 2,468
Groaned at 73 Times in 64 Posts
Thanked 2,942 Times in 1,468 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
...Now as for the content, I see some personal comments about Mr Farage smoking, which is like Gossip level +500...
You really didn't understand what he was saying, did you.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank baboon for this useful post:
  #4958  
Old 31.08.2016, 14:39
baboon's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 2,468
Groaned at 73 Times in 64 Posts
Thanked 2,942 Times in 1,468 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Shame coming from UK who have a ton of excellent humorists like Ricky Gervais , Rik Mayall, etc... why naming a few while there are so many?
Ricky Gervais on Brexit:


"What's depressing, are the reasons behind it. There's obviously a fraction [of Leave voters] who are xenophobic and racist, but that's the way of the world. People blame foreigners. It's terrible.
"The truth is, we would've been better in. They're not going to get the Britain they want. They're dreaming. What do they think it's going to be? They're going to go back to the f****** Victorian times?
“They've been sold a lie, their life hasn't turned out like they thought, and they're blaming someone. And now they're gloating about it.”


http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/ce...-a3317411.html
__________________
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank baboon for this useful post:
  #4959  
Old 31.08.2016, 15:10
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vaud
Posts: 3,621
Groaned at 456 Times in 291 Posts
Thanked 2,958 Times in 1,475 Posts
CorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond reputeCorsebouTheReturn has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Ricky Gervais on Brexit:


"What's depressing, are the reasons behind it. There's obviously a fraction [of Leave voters] who are xenophobic and racist, but that's the way of the world. People blame foreigners. It's terrible.
"The truth is, we would've been better in. They're not going to get the Britain they want. They're dreaming. What do they think it's going to be? They're going to go back to the f****** Victorian times?
“They've been sold a lie, their life hasn't turned out like they thought, and they're blaming someone. And now they're gloating about it.”
Great, he's entitled to his own opinion. Does not mean he's not funny.

And if we had to react to his comment, I'd say he is probably true. Nonetheless, I wish to believe that it can be a great opportunity for British people to avoid further problems and to have a better lifetime than the EU bureaucrats version.
Never knew Victorian times, and I doubt it's about regressing, but having more control on their future.

Only if a few more politicians heads are falling, and only with a lot more motivation from current politicians from all sides*.

*which probably means "game over" or "you won, get lost".
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank CorsebouTheReturn for this useful post:
  #4960  
Old 31.08.2016, 15:37
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 8,411
Groaned at 141 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 14,611 Times in 6,217 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post

The former Prime Minister of Belgium has accused Nigel Farage of lying on migration, Turkey and the NHS in a heated European Parliament debate on the Brexit.

Source

Guy Verhofstadt, told the Ukip leader: “Finally we will be getting rid of the biggest waste in the EU budget – that we have paid for 17 years of your salary.”

Or an article here claims to list six lies written by Farage in an Express article!
So basically Guy Verhofstadt had a go at Nigel Farage..

In other words, nothing new happened but the Independent wrote about it.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank amogles for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Latest Referendum, what will be consequences for EU (C permit and B permit) holders? expat2014 Permits/visas/government 3 11.02.2014 08:59
Importing vehicles and the VAT consequences in Switzerland from France BEFO Finance/banking/taxation 6 07.08.2013 15:11
The (Available in CH) Dog Food Review Thread meloncollie Pet corner 44 08.05.2012 20:15
Common-law marriage and consequences in CH Mishto Family matters/health 9 01.10.2011 22:03
Something for the Brits: M&S in CH mark Daily life 11 15.11.2007 12:18


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0