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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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The subject of Sunday's call was the brain drain of Greek youth leaving to study and work in a better economy, and a warning that this would also happen to the UK. I'd love to know the percentages of German doctors that are Greek, because I feel like I've met a good few in recent years. My dentist when I worked in Manchester was from Skiathos.
Funny you should say that. I was visiting the "Scientists for EU" Facebook page the other day and under an article posted by the admins (The Guardian: Are you an EU citizen who is leaving Britain due to Brexit?) noticed this Facebook comment:

"My wife is German, I am Greek and we both have a Dr before our name and have been in the UK for over 20 years each. We live in a small market town in the northwest where local people enjoy binge drinking, getting pregnant at 13 and blaming 'bloody foreigners' for 'taking their jobs' (how one can be a doctor with only primary school education is anyone's guess), 'clogging their NHS ' (although we man it) etc. Our UK born six year old trilingual daughter has systematically been targeted by other six year olds whose parents told them that 'she will soon be leaving for her country', and we are conscious of speaking in either of our languages. And now brexiters want us to apply for UK passports if we are to stay? No, thank you."
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UKIP's Steven Woolfe has collapsed in the European Parliament. Apparently after an altercation with another member of his party resulted in him getting punched in the face several times. In hospital now with suspected bleeding on the brain. Good grief.
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And a loan would be cheap to fund; the £ dropped 8% versus the CHF during the Conservative conference.

The SNB must be wishing they had May on board!
and now today one UK£ buys a princely CHF 1.23

How do you spell inflation again?
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UKIP's Steven Woolfe has collapsed in the European Parliament. Apparently after an altercation with another member of his party resulted in him getting punched in the face several times. In hospital now with suspected bleeding on the brain. Good grief.
UKIP MEP who committed the assault reportedly Mike Hookem. Oh to be a headline writer today.
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Funny you should say that. I was visiting the "Scientists for EU" Facebook page the other day and under an article posted by the admins (The Guardian: Are you an EU citizen who is leaving Britain due to Brexit?) noticed this Facebook comment:
There are places like the village described. I could name a few but risk offending other EF members. My Greek former dentist was on the BBC Breakfast programme 3 weeks ago as their guest dental expert.

My OH spent many hours last Summer talking to a wonderful couple we met in Crete. They were both doctors and worked in Germany. Then we went to Santorini a month later and met more Greek doctors who work in Germany. Made me wonder if there was anyone left at KAT, Attica.

Then there's sad tales like my friend's mum who was under her British doctor for months and having tests when she went to Corfu on holiday and became ill there. Within 24hrs, the doctors had diagnosed a brain tumour and kept her there for over a month until she was fit enough to travel home.

If I sound biased, it's because I received the best medical treatment I've ever experienced at the KAT in Athens for a head injury. And we're going to turn talent like that away?

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UKIP's Steven Woolfe has collapsed in the European Parliament. Apparently after an altercation with another member of his party resulted in him getting punched in the face several times. In hospital now with suspected bleeding on the brain. Good grief.
Shocking indeed. Makes you wonder what the hell is going on in British politics.
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UKIP MEP who committed the assault reportedly Mike Hookem. Oh to be a headline writer today.
This is on Wikipedia already as...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hookem

Wonder how long that will be allowed to stand.
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This is on Wikipedia already as...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hookem

Wonder how long that will be allowed to stand.
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Shocking indeed. Makes you wonder what the hell is going on in British politics.
You mean the kinder, gentler politics that was promised after Jo Cox's murder?

They're all as bad as each other, Party before all else. Direct Democracy is the way forward.
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I'd say that monolingualism of the average Brit is far more of a hindrance to studying in these countries than Brexit.
I know a guy from Newcastle who claims he has no trouble understand Danes when they speak slowly. He says there are many Danish words in the Geordie dialect.

I can't say how much truth there is to that statement.
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I know a guy from Newcastle who claims he has no trouble understand Danes when they speak slowly. He says there are many Danish words in the Geordie dialect.

I can't say how much truth there is to that statement.
Yorkshire Dialect Words of Old Norse Origin Source

Immigrants were also raping and plundering centuries ago (and whatever pillaging was; sounds like the NHS)
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This is on Wikipedia already as...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hookem

Wonder how long that will be allowed to stand.
Maybe they plan to choose their new leader by hand-to-hand combat?
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Funny you should say that. I was visiting the "Scientists for EU" Facebook page the other day and under an article posted by the admins (The Guardian: Are you an EU citizen who is leaving Britain due to Brexit?) noticed this Facebook comment:

"My wife is German, I am Greek and we both have a Dr before our name and have been in the UK for over 20 years each. We live in a small market town in the northwest where local people enjoy binge drinking, getting pregnant at 13 and blaming 'bloody foreigners' for 'taking their jobs' (how one can be a doctor with only primary school education is anyone's guess), 'clogging their NHS ' (although we man it) etc. Our UK born six year old trilingual daughter has systematically been targeted by other six year olds whose parents told them that 'she will soon be leaving for her country', and we are conscious of speaking in either of our languages. And now brexiters want us to apply for UK passports if we are to stay? No, thank you."
Very sad. I know a Swiss with the surname Hess who lives in the UK. He got so fed up with local plonkers asking "how did your dad get on at the war trials?" That he changed his name to Tell. That was 30 years ago.

There are idiots everywhere with or without Brexit...
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He might get away with that name now. People who don't know what the EU is probably don't know who Hess was.

The problem with the idiots is that there view now seems to have been endorsed by government. And journalists don't even seem to be asking why certain figures have changed their tune from pro Remain to pro (hard) Brexit/anti-immigrant, e.g. Amber Rudd who took part in at least one TV debate for Remain, and Theresa May, who said in April "I believe it is clearly in our national interest to remain a member of the European Union" (source). Theresa May has been interviewed twice recently by the BBC (Andrew Marr and Laura Kuenssberg) and the issue of the turnaround and why she should now be leading the charge for Brexit and by implication acting against what she thinks is in the national interest wasn't even raised.
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Actual LOL! I love the internet.
Then you'll love this.

According to some 'sources' on Twitter (I don't have an account), Hookem is now on the run and involved in a car chase with French police. He's probably in his office.
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Very sad. I know a Swiss with the surname Hess who lives in the UK. He got so fed up with local plonkers asking "how did your dad get on at the war trials?" That he changed his name to Tell. That was 30 years ago.

There are idiots everywhere with or without Brexit...
Think I've said this before, but I was having dinner with my OH and his brother and his wife 3 weeks ago near Manchester. They told us that some of the bare faced racism they've encountered in recent months is as bad or worse than when they lived in South Africa.

I currently have to do some schlepping back and forth to the UK and am deliberately cutting each visit to the shortest time possible because the atmosphere is so toxic.
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Think I've said this before, but I was having dinner with my OH and his brother and his wife 3 weeks ago near Manchester. They told us that some of the bare faced racism they've encountered in recent months is as bad or worse than when they lived in South Africa.

I currently have to do some schlepping back and forth to the UK and am deliberately cutting each visit to the shortest time possible because the atmosphere is so toxic.
My mum, bless her, has just sacked off a lifelong friend because all she warbles on about is "foreigners" and uses the most awful language to describe them (vermin, and other names I can't type here). My mum is moaning to me "we used to talk about gardening and Strictly and now I can't get her to stop banging on about foreigners".

I wish the friend would snap out of it because now I'm the one having to keep the gardening and Strictly conversation going...
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Then you'll love this.

According to some 'sources' on Twitter (I don't have an account), Hookem is now on the run and involved in a car chase with French police. He's probably in his office.
He'll turn up at the Calais Jungle, you watch.

Steven Woolfe has regained consciousness now. Apparently he's the one who took off his jacket and invited Hookem outside. Well that backfired.
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He's got the most slappable face in history. I'd love to see him on a reality tv show submerged in fish guts and still banging on about fishing quotas.
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Is Theresa May courting the far right or Marine Le Pen turning moderate?
Brexit means Brits now have to actually take responsibility for their own country. Not sure if that is Far Right, whatever that is in people's minds. That is just right and proper. More Europeans ought to follow suit.
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Brexit means Brits now have to actually take responsibility for their own country. Not sure if that is Far Right, whatever that is in people's minds. That is just right and proper. More Europeans ought to follow suit.
Eh? The UK has always been responsible for itself.
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