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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Trump has his own agenda and approach. He will talk to people that he considers important for him and in his own time. He will care less if this is perceived to damage the "special relationship" with the UK.

Having said that I hope May will be able to strike up a constructive relationship with him.

Edit. She seems to make statements defining UK policies that involve other countries without really knowing if those other countries subscribe to her approach?

Trump is all about the deal.
But in Trumps world, sometimes, to get a good deal for both sides, you've got to screw a 3rd-party in exchange...
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Old 10.11.2016, 18:07
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Like the old school reports said "disappointing result"

Britain’s trade deficit with the rest of the world widened unexpectedly in September as the sharp fall in the pound since the Brexit vote failed to boost exports.
Alan Clarke, an economist at Scotiabank, said that a weaker currency was not necessarily a key driver of exports. “If we are lucky, the weak pound may boost exports, but I would highlight that export growth tends to be driven more by the strength of overseas demand, rather than the exchange rate.”

Imports rose £1.3bn to £38.8bn.

Positive
"“Pass-through of higher prices in supply chains to UK consumer prices had so far been limited, reflecting strong competition between retailers”"

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Old 10.11.2016, 18:09
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I think the point is the timing, not the idea....
Indeed, seemed daft to announce a couple of days before Mays visit to India; are such things accidental or sabotage?
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Old 10.11.2016, 20:58
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Theresa May seems strange here. A grimacing automaton.

Theresa May 'looks forward to working with Trump'

She apparently hasn't heard from Trump yet.

Theresa May still awaiting call from Donald Trump
"Trump has thus far talked to the leaders of Ireland, Mexico, Israel, Egypt, Turkey, India, Japan, Australia and South Korea, according to various reports."
And an invitation, unfortunately

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Ireland’s government said the Taoiseach, Enda Kenny, had a 10-minute call with Trump, and was invited to visit the White House on St Patrick’s Day.
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Old 10.11.2016, 21:17
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One for May too.

"US President-elect Donald Trump has invited Theresa May to visit Washington in a phone call in which both stressed the importance of UK/US relations."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37941737
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But doesn't the Irish Taoiseach always spend Paddy's Day in the White House?

Last year I couldn't figure out how Kenny got all those shamrocks on his suit. I reckon he had them growing out of his suit pocket for weeks.. Obama looked like he was cracking up
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Theresa May seems strange here. A grimacing automaton.

Theresa May 'looks forward to working with Trump'
She'd not long been back from her trip to India, apparently, and it shows. She looks fatigued and a bit jet-lagged.
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Old 10.11.2016, 21:38
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And an invitation, unfortunately
Well UK provided an easy English speaking doorway into the EU; now this role falls to Ireland
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“That Obama creature – loathsome individual – he couldn’t stand our country. He said we’d be at the back of the queue, didn’t he?” (Nigel Farage)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_fb

Sly racism or is that reading too much into it?
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“That Obama creature – loathsome individual – he couldn’t stand our country. He said we’d be at the back of the queue, didn’t he?” (Nigel Farage)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_fb

Sly racism or is that reading too much into it?
Where is the racism?
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“That Obama creature – loathsome individual – he couldn’t stand our country. He said we’d be at the back of the queue, didn’t he?” (Nigel Farage)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_fb

Sly racism or is that reading too much into it?
Are you joking or being serious?
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Old 11.11.2016, 10:17
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Don't worry, Trump, unlike Obama, will not put the UK at the end of the queue. It will more likely be at the front of it. Unless the UK gets whiny and snipey about it.
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Old 11.11.2016, 10:59
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Don't worry, Trump, unlike Obama, will not put the UK at the end of the queue. It will more likely be at the front of it. Unless the UK gets whiny and snipey about it.
Yeah, I guess the UK has to get used to dealing with someone that operates with his unpredictable emotions rather than hard business now.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:03
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Are you joking or being serious?
Really! How often do you hear people at an interview referring to the head of another state as a creature!
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Really! How often do you hear people at an interview referring to the head of another state as a creature!
Indeed, I believe the correct term is "son of a whore".
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:18
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Yeah, I guess the UK has to get used to dealing with someone that operates with his unpredictable emotions rather than hard business now.
Starting from this point, one can only imagine the kind of deals he will be looking for:

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Stephen Moore, senior economic adviser to Mr Trump, said the centrepiece plan of the new administration was wooing back multinationals with radical business tax cuts.

“I believe that when we cut these tax rates — we’re going to cut our business tax rate from roughly 35% down to roughly 15% to 20% — if you do that you are going to see a flood of companies leaving Ireland and Canada and Germany and France and they are going to come back to the United States,” he said.

“It is going to have a very high impact on jobs.”
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Elsewhere, Enterprise Ireland, pointed out that it would add significant costs to their operations if a US firm tried to supply the European market state side. And of course the tax rate to beat is 12.5% not 15% - 20%. US bond auctions could become very entertaining over the coming years if the deficit heads higher.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:19
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Really! How often do you hear people at an interview referring to the head of another state as a creature!
Erdogan got called worse.
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Erdogan got called worse.
He's a special case. He IS worse. Than everything.

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Don't worry, Trump, unlike Obama, will not put the UK at the end of the queue. It will more likely be at the front of it. Unless the UK gets whiny and snipey about it.
LOL, the front of the queue of being shafted
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Trump is all about the deal.
But in Trumps world, sometimes, to get a good deal for both sides, you've got to screw a 3rd-party in exchange...
In Trump's world a good deal only has one side to it.
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