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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 24.06.2016, 00:06
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Re: Anyone watching the Great Debate on BBC

UKIP basically conceeding and Sky poll pointing at 52:48 for remain. Phew if true.
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Old 24.06.2016, 00:19
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Re: Anyone watching the Great Debate on BBC

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UKIP basically conceeding and Sky poll pointing at 52:48 for remain. Phew if true.
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Asked about UKIP leader Nigel Farage appearing to concede Remain would win the vote, he [ed: Ian Duncan Smith] says: "I never follow what Nigel Farage says as he often says two different things at the same time."
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Old 24.06.2016, 00:22
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

I think it is too close to call. I think we'll need to wait for the final count...
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Old 24.06.2016, 00:50
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I think it is too close to call. I think we'll need to wait for the final count...
yeah and it's a nail-biter
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Old 24.06.2016, 01:56
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The first result is in, from Gibraltar. Remain: 19,322, Leave: 823
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Old 24.06.2016, 02:06
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

EU referendum results: first results in as 84 pro-Brexit MPs back Cameron

Nobody wants to move far from the trough
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Old 24.06.2016, 02:09
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EU referendum results: first results in as 84 pro-Brexit MPs back Cameron

Nobody wants to move far from the trough
Rats know when to leave a sinking ship...
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Old 24.06.2016, 02:48
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/e404c2fc-3...9b15a8ee7.html

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Newcastle upon Tyne, which had been expected to be solidly for Remain, backed Britain’s continued EU membership by a margin of only 51-49.
In nearby Sunderland, a traditional working-class city in the north-east there was a resounding 61-39 majority.
Sterling slumped 4.4 per cent after the Sunderland result, plunging to a low of $1.4295 from a high of $1.5018. It has since rallied to around $1.46.
pound slumps as early results from the north show Leave in the lead. Of course, the results from Remain friendly south are yet to be counted...
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Old 24.06.2016, 03:09
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Only 8 of of 382 areas counted, but so far Leave ahead 53:47

https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/20...dum/index.html

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make that 9/382 and 54:48

Remain side must be getting jittery now...
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Old 24.06.2016, 04:04
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Still very early but:

54.2% LEAVE
45.8% REMAIN
30 of 382 voting areas counted.
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Adoption of the Euro meant lower interest rates and easy credit. What happened in Greece, for example, was 15 years of huge real growth (5,6,7% in real growth IIRC) but simultaneously debt in GDP terms increased even faster. Instead of using the opportunity to build a functioning state they used the credit to spend like crazy. Until 2008/09, when the bowl was taken away and they were presented the bill.

To say the EU, who made possible, is to blame ignores completely that it was Greece who decided on how to use the money. It's like blaming your robbed neighbor for leaving his gardening stuff outside, and simultaneously say the thief is free of guilt.
Greece is being constantly brought up into all these pro-Brexit discussions as if their foreign debts will disappear over night if UK is out of the equation...
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:15
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

300k lead for the leavers. 51:49% overall, seems that a new Britain is about to be born.
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:22
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300k lead for the leavers. 51:49% overall, seems that a new Britain is about to be born.

Can't argue with the 'new' thing, but 'new' isn't always better.
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:23
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

But then half of the polling stations votes are counted, it can still change. GBP has already taken a hit against the USD.
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My grandmother was born in Govan, Glasgow. I claim my Scottish passport *hedging my bets*
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:28
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:29
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The only good thing that could ever come from Britain's leaving the EU is that the British forum members here will officially no longer be entitled to criticize the result of the MEI. A Brexit would be a xenophobic f-up like the world has never seen before, turning the MEI into a harmless little episode.
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:39
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The only good thing that could ever come from Britain's leaving the EU is that the British forum members here will officially no longer be entitled to criticize the result of the MEI.
And why not? You don't lose the right to criticize just because a vote doesn't go as you'd prefer.

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A Brexit would be a xenophobic f-up like the world has never seen before, turning the MEI into a harmless little episode.
Like it or not, it's happening. As of a moment ago, over 3/4 of all voting areas have been counted, and Leave is leading by 3.5%/750,000 votes.

It'll be an interesting day to be sure.
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:45
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And why not? You don't lose the right to criticize just because a vote doesn't go as you'd prefer.







Like it or not, it's happening. As of a moment ago, over 3/4 of all voting areas have been counted, and Leave is leading by 3.5%/750,000 votes.



It'll be an interesting day to be sure.


There's the right to criticize and there is the idea of accepting a democratic vote. I'm not criticizing the vote - as a matter of fact I wish the UK voted on more things. I'm not British, it's not my country. But personally I believe the Brexit vote happened out of irrational fear and without the population actually informing themselves - much like with the MEI etc. I just hope the EU won't fail because one country's helter-skelter vote during a time of general, world-wide instability.
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Old 24.06.2016, 06:47
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Pound tumbles to lows not seen since 1985
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36611512
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