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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 24.06.2016, 09:57
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a) Neither the British public nor the MP's who voted for Leave would put up with that.

b) There's no guarantee that an election is that far off. Given the divided state of the Conservatives over this issue there could well be another election within the next year or even sooner.

c) If you want to cut your political throat, go against the will of the majority of the British public. The referendum may not be legally binding, but the furore if MP's try and ignore it will cause even more political chaos.

Cutting his political throat a 2nd time won't make a big difference.


My bet is that Wikipedia needs a new article to cover "The summer of discontent"
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Old 24.06.2016, 09:59
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Corbyn on the Beeb just then could hardly contain his delight. His heart was never really in the campaign and I think secretly he wanted out. Added to that, he'll be rid of Cameron and Osborne now too.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:08
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a) Neither the British public nor the MP's who voted for Leave would put up with that.

b) There's no guarantee that an election is that far off. Given the divided state of the Conservatives over this issue there could well be another election within the next year or even sooner.

c) If you want to cut your political throat, go against the will of the majority of the British public. The referendum may not be legally binding, but the furore if MP's try and ignore it will cause even more political chaos.
A) They probably will once the panic/ euphoria induced hangover has worn off.
B) They may change party leader sooner but unless there's a vote of no confidence in the present government the Tories will be staying put until they have to leave.
C) The majority simply isn't big enough I don't think. The debate still isn't over. Lots of deals and negotiations to be had/made/ proposed, I'll wager. Another vote nearer the time will probably get an even higher turnout as people consider again.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:18
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Rumours are now going around that Cameron is going to resign - it was just on the beeb.

Personally I doubt that will happen, but then again I didn't think I would be looking at a Brexit this morning.
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I heard that the EU banned maths.
1,269,501 votes majority looks overwhelming to me.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:22
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1,269,501 votes majority looks overwhelming to me.


If you take your car for a brake job, and the mechanic says "the odds are 1.9% better than even that you will be able to halt the car" would you accept the work?
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:24
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Cameron's gone.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:25
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1,269,501 votes majority looks overwhelming to me.
That's only (and roughly) just under 2 per cent of the current population.

Jagwaugh beat me to the maths of it!

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Old 24.06.2016, 10:25
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1,269,501 votes majority looks overwhelming to me.
33.5m votes
17.4m exit
16.1m remain

Overwhelming majority would be around 2/3 of the vote IMHO not a 48/52 split. They polled less than <10% more votes.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:26
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Rumours are now going around that Cameron is going to resign - it was just on the beeb.

Personally I doubt that will happen, but then again I didn't think I would be looking at a Brexit this morning.
And he bloody well has
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:27
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Cameron's gone.
Is it October already?
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If you take your car for a brake job, and the mechanic says "the odds are 1.9% better than even that you will be able to halt the car" would you accept the work?
what if you could switch bank and could get a 1.9% higher interest rate?
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:31
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Brexit: so it happened. I like the security and stability the EU has given us, and my hassle-free residency in Switzerland is living proof of the many benefits it gives to its citizens. I also like the political stability and increased power it gives its member states on the world stage. It has many positive elements in many aspects. However, I think the reason that this situation happened is the EU's drive to become a one-stop solution for everyone without providing the necessary flexibility or transparency to those it governs. Layer upon layer and tangled webs of bureaucracy and regulation, rank and file of overpaid bureaucrats whose function remains a mystery. EU premiers we had no hand in electing essentially telling us to shut up and be thankful for what we have. Trying to create artificially balanced economies with countries that do not have the means to support themselves and compete on a level playing field.

The end result being that if the average person in the UK does not see or understand the benefit that being in the EU brings them, then that is not the average persons fault, that is the EU's fault and the fault of the UK's governing politicians. What the average person see instead are the things that impact their daily lives (real or imagined, and to whatever that extent may be) while possessed by the feeling that they have had no choice in and control of the matter. Increased migration, rises in unemployment, reductions in public services, Islamophobia, e6tc etc. All of these are reasons that the right and far-right are making huge inroads in country-level politics, by feeding and preying off of the dissent and discord of the people. That is again in my eyes, a situation contributed to by the EU's handling of things, not least the biggest humanitarian crisis of our age.

While I have no crystal ball, I think short term we will undoubtedly see a shit-storm of political and economical instability, Scotland likely to want to leave (which, though understandable, would be a crying shame), British expats may suffer abroad, and likely a host of other issues we haven't yet forseen that will create some very trying times. While taking that into account I am still optimistic about the mid to long term prospects. I believe that we have the strength and expertise to compete on the world stage as an independent body, and I am really hoping that this will be the wake-up call that the EU and its 'strong-arm' leading states needs to take a long and hard look at itself, to get to the root of the problems it faces, and ultimately to reform. One thing for certain is that it's going to be an very interesting and very nerve-wracking few years while all of the dust settles.
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We need a poll. Who will succeed Cameron....
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Cameron's gone.
He was alwAys going to if it was Leave. Just have to hope it's not bloody Boris next in line.
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Time to register http://bojo4pm.com/
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Just for lolz, it would be amusing to see:
  • Scotland declare independence and join the EU;
  • Northern Ireland to reunite with Ireland (and so be in the EU);
  • London and the rest of the south secede from the Union to form a new country, Greater Cornwall, a new member of the EU;
  • Gibraltar joining Spain, but as a TOTALLY INDEPENDENT territory with NO ALLEGIANCE to those foreign johnnies (but full access to the EU, but without any influence on how fish & chips, ale, and bananas can be served); and
  • the United Kingdom of Sunderland, Other Northern Places and Wales rising proudly to global dominance in all matters, independent of those EU nutters.
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Old 24.06.2016, 10:33
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Can we have a new thread so I don't need to scroll to page 85?
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Mixing economics with hate of immigrants and look what happens.
This will cost a lot of money! (for some)
Be careful what you wish for!
Old lady Europe going back into dark dimension of colonialism, hate, antagonism!
New name for UKIP - TrumpUK - yes I agree with that one!
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