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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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From a non-British European prospective I have to say I am looking forward to the result. Hopefully the EU will be able to get itself together and build more democratic, stronger institutions.
And I sure want to see the Scots vote again and leave!
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:48
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At least under current EU rules. Maybe this will change.

IMO, the EU should have allowed member states some flexibility to deviate from these rules from time to time to quell the concerns of the UK and an increasing number of other countries. Now they may regret their dogmatic approach.
should have, could have. But they didn't. Not that it would have made a big difference in terms of immigration. And I seriously doubt that the UK would agree to any kind of bilateral treaties that involve free movement of people, and I doubt the EU will agree to anything without that.
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I thought the concept of the EU, if not this particular one, was a good one.

So now I hope loads of other countries quickly vote to leave so that a new union can be forged.

However, I'm actually against all borders anyway and want the world to be run like Switzerland, with one "World Federation" and all country governments relegated to Canton status.

With me running the World Federation of course. Which comes with admin rights to EF.
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And I sure want to see the Scots vote again and leave!
I'd be seriously surprised if that didn't happen. And Northern Ireland will probably give it a go as well, although that one could lead to a very explosive situation (quite literally).
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:51
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Lots of people booing Boris outside his home... the reporters can't get close.
yes he got Brexit and his constituency is a Bremain heartland and he has screwed them over

He will never be PM
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Brexit - aftermath and next steps

I'm starting a new thread to track developments as they will emerge over the next few years. One side has put together their view on what should happen next here:

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/..._after_23_june

I think that there are several immediate questions to resolve:

- Who's going to take over from Cameron
- Will they invoke A50 right away (probably not I imagine, but if they did, that would keep the pressure and pace on)
- What will the UK-EU deal be
- Will more countries in the EU want to leave too?
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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:53
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Re: Brexit - aftermath and next steps

1. boris
2. dunno
3. bad for the uk
4. yes but will be put off by 3.
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:54
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So what do you think about Cameron stepping down?

Is that the right thing?

Is he effectively handing over to Boris?

I think that was a stupid flounce driven by his own ego. What he should have done is admit UK had a healthy debate, then move towards uniting and moving forward. By announcing this today, he injected some bitterness in the result, and risks tearing his party in two. Because AFAIC, the worse outcome here is for the Tories to fall apart while Corbyn is sitting where he is. That would be just as bad, if not worse than the results of this referendum. He really didn't need to do that today.
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:55
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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.
Would you be saying the same if it was remain?

40 thousand Brits in Switzerland, I doubt the votes from here swung it.
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:56
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GBP regaining ground again now. Up to 1.35.
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Re: Brexit - aftermath and next steps

I suggest we all invest in Whisky!

Pound drop to its lowest since 30 years!

and pray that the Game of Thrones still receive the EU support for filming in Ireland!
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Old 24.06.2016, 11:57
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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.

not strictly true, the EU agreement only gave free movement to 'thickos' without a degree (like me), before that if you had one you where in
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:00
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Just for lolz, it would be amusing to see:
  • Scotland declare independence and join the EU;
  • Northern Ireland to reunite with Ireland (and so be in the EU);
  • London and the rest of the south secede from the Union to form a new country, Greater Cornwall, a new member of the EU;
  • Gibraltar joining Spain, but as a TOTALLY INDEPENDENT territory with NO ALLEGIANCE to those foreign johnnies (but full access to the EU, but without any influence on how fish & chips, ale, and bananas can be served); and
  • the United Kingdom of Sunderland, Other Northern Places and Wales rising proudly to global dominance in all matters, independent of those EU nutters.
LOL
Actually 1, 2 & 4 could happen

For me this was a surprising result but you can't knock democracy in action and with an over 70% turnout there was certainly not apathy in play.

The currency and financial markets crashed but are now bouncing back; £ now CHF 1.34.
Of course the euro has also been hit which benefits the £/CHF rate.
Gold has jumped up

Ironically the first group of people who will definitely become unemployed due to Brexit are Farage's 22 MEPs
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EU have noted Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout and Byegium. Only Germaining.

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Old 24.06.2016, 12:01
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LondExit here we come. Ideally when most of the politicians are away.

Donald Trump is in the UK I believe (he had no choice, he's run out of money and had to go to a third-world country with a weak currency). We just need a chant of "build that wall!" around the M25 and it's done.
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I'd be seriously surprised if that didn't happen. And Northern Ireland will probably give it a go as well, although that one could lead to a very explosive situation (quite literally).
I don't think Northern Ireland will return to massive violence, now that they have seen that peace can work and even the radicals and crackpots have broken out of the vicious cycle of revenge for revenge.

Give it to the Republic of Ireland or make it an independent country. I see no real need for British involvement there any more. Sometimes you just have to trust people and not assume they're incapable just because you like to imagine they are.
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yes he got Brexit and his constituency is a Bremain heartland and he has screwed them over

He will never be PM



I hope not. He's a greased weasel with a bad haircut.
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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.
One of the worst countries to be in, that I've lived in, for "tax without representation" is ... this one.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:04
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Re: Brexit - aftermath and next steps

I heard one threat that the UK would be inflicted by a disease, the Pox, I think, should it vote for Brexit.
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