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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:39
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So what do you think about Cameron stepping down?

Is that the right thing?

Is he effectively handing over to Boris?
His position was untenable. I think it was the right thing to do to get out and make a quick transition.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:43
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every legal UK resident has an NI card
No they don't. It was only ever an 'NI number card', issued as a notification to the individual, with no legal meaning, and I'm sure I'm not alone in having no idea what happened to it once I'd memorised my NI number when I was 16.

Of course your idea could work if they made them mandatory, and verifiable, like some sort of, oooh, I don't know, some sort of identity card or something. Now what, I wonder, did the UK think of that idea least times it wad raised?
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:51
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No they don't. It was only ever an 'NI number card', issued as a notification to the individual, with no legal meaning, and I'm sure I'm not alone in having no idea what happened to it once I'd memorised my NI number when I was 16.

Of course your idea could work if they made them mandatory, and verifiable, like some sort of, oooh, I don't know, some sort of identity card or something. Now what, I wonder, did the UK think of that idea least times it wad raised?

ok everyone paying tax, or of a tax paying age, is issued with an NI number / card. One would assume those pesky illegals don't go to the grief of registering with the tax office.

Much like the vote remain campaign, if they had actually focused and explained what an ID card would have been used for and made the proles understand rather then allowing the anti's to shout and scream and scaremonger it might have succeeded (and not offering the deal to your favorite outsourcing company with a track record of massive failures)
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:52
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His position was untenable. I think it was the right thing to do to get out and make a quick transition.
Donald Tusk and Juncker are to give a news conference in the 30 minutes.

Juncker also needs to resign.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:53
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Give it to the Republic of Ireland or make it an independent country. I see no real need for British involvement there any more.
There are many in the south who don't want the north back...

British involvement?? It is British...we are not involved, we own it and the majority of the citizens are British and wish to remain British.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:53
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Juncker also needs to resign.
...but he won't.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:55
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Was a good idea, but too much ongoing discussing in the older thread, so I merged them.
Please revert this. I wanted a separate thread to track developments, not to be lost in this existing discussion.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:56
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Donald Tusk and Juncker are to give a news conference in the 30 minutes.

Juncker also needs to resign.
Also wondering what the future of Farage is.

Basically he has obtained what he has been asking for.

Probably his own success has taken him by surprise.

So what's he going to do now?

Will UKIP fizzle away to insignificance?

Will the Tories benefit by picking up those voters.
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Old 24.06.2016, 12:59
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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.
Shhh, shhh.. "après moi, le déluge"...
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Old 24.06.2016, 13:09
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Also wondering what the future of Farage is.

Basically he has obtained what he has been asking for.

Probably his own success has taken him by surprise.

So what's he going to do now?

Will UKIP fizzle away to insignificance?

Will the Tories benefit by picking up those voters.
"Will UKIP fizzle away to insignificance?" Well they will lose their 22 MEPs and currently only have one MP so they are already insignificant. Even Plaid Cymru have 3 MPs!
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How remain voters see Brexit voters celebrating today

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Old 24.06.2016, 13:19
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How remain voters see Brexit voters celebrating today


a bunch of girls?
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derestricted dyson's can't wait
You mean those Dysons made in ...


Malaysia, for cheap costs and cheap labour? How rich it was for Dyson to back Brexit
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Old 24.06.2016, 13:21
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Meanwhile the Italian stock market is down 9% today
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You mean those Dysons made in ...


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well it wouldn't affect him either way then would it, he still has to pay import duty in or out.
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for years the dirty working class have been told there are no jobs because of those pesky europeans coming here and stealing them all (who oddly manage to find jobs no problem at all)

and for years people have been told the nhs is in trouble because of all those pesky foreigners coming over and using it when they are not entitled to.

Of course all previous governments could have easily cleared these 'issues' up, every legal UK resident has an NI card, show that at the hospital / Dr's and you get treated, no card? - how would sir like to pay?

sort out the benefits system so the workshy british idiot isn't better off dropping more kids, and watching jeremry kyle on tv all day, seriously, that johnny foreigner can come here, speak multiple languages, work all the hours god sends doing some menial task, live, eat, and send money back home to support there family, but you can't find a job????

all of which would be huge vote losers
Having a NI card does not automatically entitle you to use the NHS- at all. If you live abroad and pay taxes abroad, even with a NI card and a British passport, you are not entitled to NHS care, even if you have contributed to it all your working life.
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well it wouldn't affect him either way then would it, he still has to pay import duty in or out.
He's a complete arse - after all in 2010 he and his company paid a measly 59m in tax (50m corporate, 9m personal).
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Old 24.06.2016, 13:25
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Juncker, making speech, looks hungover with a headache. Can't help thinking of Peter Seller's Inspector Clouseau.


He said "out is out", but now says "We hope the UK remains a strong partner." Okay. So who is next? My bet is on the Netherlands.
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...but he won't.
He's a wee-bit like Sepp Blatter in that regard: the presidency will need to be wrestled from him.
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Old 24.06.2016, 13:26
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Having a NI card does not automatically entitle you to use the NHS- at all. If you live abroad and pay taxes abroad, even with a NI card and a British passport, you are not entitled to NHS care, even if you have contributed to it all your working life.

except no one in the nhs etc will ask you if you are entitled or not, that's the whole point, rock up to casualty, lie, job done
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