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Old 03.05.2016, 14:55
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How can I get a licence for a gun?

You wouldn't bring a licence to a knife fight, would you?
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Old 03.05.2016, 15:01
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It has a bayonet
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Old 03.05.2016, 15:11
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Denis Thatcher?
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Old 03.05.2016, 15:21
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Exactly - I like it served with Gin
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Old 03.05.2016, 20:17
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Cats, on the other hand, are a more difficult piglet to wrestle. As everybody who has ever swung a cat knows, cats are intelligent and evil creatures who deserve no less than whatever they deserve. To incarcerate a cat in solitary confinement might not be such a bad idea, provided that they have access to squeaky mice, balls of wool and so on, but no provision for communication with other cats in a similar situation, which may, naturally, result in treachery, plottery and a disturbing mewling in the middle of the night.


A human being, on the other hand, is a totally different preposition. Many humans are neither cat nor dog, and unlike cats or dogs, some of them may enjoy the retreat into solitude, the escape from the cares and disturbances of mundane existence, perhaps to derive enlightenment from a journey into the mind, resulting in - who knows? - an understanding of either the abyss or the eternal truths of existence, depending upon the kind of plumbing to which they have access. Moreoever, there are cats which, like the aforementioned greasy pigs, are more like dogs than they are cats, and they, too, might not benefit from such journeys into the soul.


Who knows? I certainly don't, and I doubt that you don't either. So there it is: to be a hermit or not? Ask a crab. He knows.
so are you saying solitary confinement is not torture?
and you would be willing to do that to other people or have other people treat your loved ones that way?

heres an excerpt from the new york times

'For many decades, the civilized world has recognized prolonged isolation of prisoners in cruel conditions to be inhumane, even torture. The Geneva Conventions forbid it. Even at Abu Ghraib in Iraq, where prisoners were sexually humiliated and physically abused systematically and with official sanction, the jailers had to get permission of their commanding general to keep someone in isolation for more than 30 days.'

Anyone notice we are lucky enough to live in the country, birth home of the geneva conventions.

in defence of cats, i found a picture of a sociable cat. i had to trawl through most of the instagram hotdudeswithkittens but nevermind

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Old 03.05.2016, 20:25
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I don't understand why you bring in dogs, bosses and money.
Regarding the european thing, radical terrorists could be isolated in a way that is sufficient to not radicalise other prisoners. I mean solitary confinment might be necessary sometimes, but it must not mean a small cell, or only 1 hour of air per day, and no socialization. Especially because one day they will leave the prison.
You could also compensate the fact that they have to be alone with some other advantages or ways to keep in touch with reality.
shows how powerful talking is, that you can radicalise someone by talking to them.

I dont see that torturing people is really effective to get information, hasnt it been proven that its not effective? I suspect its done to terrorise the rest of the population so maybe it can be called an act of terrorism?

Whos going to be brave enough to expose wrong doing by the US now? Any of you brave enough, principled enough? mentally strong enough?
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so are you saying solitary confinement is not torture?
No. It is a completely different animal.

For a start, it doesn't have a shell. Nor does it have a beak. Nor, for that matter, does it have little scaly flippers.

I've never seen one, to be honest, but I imagine that it is furry and has a long, lonely tail. Maybe even feathers.

But we digress. There are more terrifying monsters stalking the hills tonight. Let us huddle for comfort and turn out the lights lest we attract their attention, for they come.

Aye! They come.
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