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This was my initial reaction too but then I read that France also did the same, hence probably I was too prejudiced in this case
But France didn't:

- Arrest thousands and holding them in terrible conditions
- Fired all the judges, teachers and court workers
- Say that they will bring back death penalty
- Ban all academia workers from travelling abroad

Suddenly it seems alarming isn't it. This is what Erdogan police is doing to the army people:



This is how the army people are being held, I guess you can say this is the Wahabi prison by the Turkish government



And they make them look at Erdogan pictures...



Look who is supporting Erdogan, people who wear Saddam shirts, I guess Erdogan now is destined to finish the Saddam way, as I previously stated



Doesn't look that good for Turkey does it?
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Old 22.07.2016, 10:58
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Apparently Erdogan has plenty of supporters in Germany and Austria.
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Old 22.07.2016, 11:02
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Apparently Erdogan has plenty of supporters in Germany and Austria.
Of course, the biggest supporters of Erdogan don't live in Turkey. They are religion-oppressed in West Europe so they think it's OK to turn Turkey into an Islamic state
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Old 22.07.2016, 14:14
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This was my initial reaction too but then I read that France also did the same, hence probably I was too prejudiced in this case
Did France permanently change its laws?
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Old 22.07.2016, 17:39
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Apparently Erdogan has plenty of supporters in Germany and Austria.
Also in Switzerland!
The Turkish embassy here has announced they will take action against Gulen supporters in Switzerland; some have reported receiving threats.

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Old 22.07.2016, 19:25
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Also in Switzerland!
The Turkish embassy here has announced they will take action against Gulen supporters in Switzerland; some have reported receiving threats.

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This is not turkey, what can they do?
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Old 22.07.2016, 19:58
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This is not turkey, what can they do?
There are a lot of them. We are not used to - or have enough police - to give each of them personal protection.
The threat coming from the Turkish ambassador (did I understand that correctly?) should cause our governement to take political steps though.
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Old 22.07.2016, 20:01
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This is not turkey, what can they do?
The Turkish president's supporters can do a lot. Beatings, killings, etc. You're usually more perceptive Nil. There are plenty of Turkish people living here who support this maniac.
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Old 22.07.2016, 20:12
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This is not turkey, what can they do?
Nothing, absolutely nothing.

What people need to remember through all of this bluster is that Turkey is, within itself, economically, and politcally relatively inconsequential to the rest of the world - even more so now through the results of this pantomimed coup. The only military asset that it has is position, which, given the state of it's military, is something that can only be leveraged by other powers.

If Turkey were to disappear over night it would just about register as a blip in the ongoing functioning of the world.

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Old 22.07.2016, 20:20
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Nothing, absolutely nothing.
I would add that any EFers who live in Oerlikon or Affoltern etc and go for a piss up in the city would be well advised not to be D&D on Weinbergstrasse as the Turkish Consulate will probably have twice as many MPs as normal.
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Old 22.07.2016, 21:23
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This is not turkey, what can they do?
There seem to be plenty of Erdogan fans, they can;
Paint graffiti on walls, attack people in the street, attack people's homes - rather like football fans
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Old 22.07.2016, 21:24
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I would add that any EFers who live in Oerlikon or Affoltern etc and go for a piss up in the city would be well advised not to be D&D on Weinbergstrasse as the Turkish Consulate will probably have twice as many MPs as normal.
"not to be D&D on Weinbergstrasse " and definitely no pi##ing on the street
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Old 22.07.2016, 23:57
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Also in Switzerland!
The Turkish embassy here has announced they will take action against Gulen supporters in Switzerland; some have reported receiving threats.

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This is not turkey, what can they do?
I didn't mean Tayyip's fans but the Turkish embassy. They can say they will take actions against Gülen supporters but they are not in any way in power to do so in Switzerland.

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The Turkish president's supporters can do a lot. Beatings, killings, etc. You're usually more perceptive Nil. There are plenty of Turkish people living here who support this maniac.
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Again I didn't mean the supporters, those are mostly uneducated, stupid Maganda!!

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Old 23.07.2016, 00:04
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I didn't mean Tayyip's fans but the Turkish embassy. They can say they will take actions against Gülen supporters but they are not in any way in power to do so in Switzerland...
I don't know. Maybe they can refuse to help Turkish citizens do basic things like renew passports or request important documents needed for life here, like birth or marriage certificates. I suppose the more corrupt people could even contact the Swiss authorities and make up stories saying a suspected Gülen supporter is an ISIS terrorist.
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Old 23.07.2016, 00:20
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I don't know. Maybe they can refuse to help Turkish citizens do basic things like renew passports or request important documents needed for life here, like birth or marriage certificates. I suppose the more corrupt people could even contact the Swiss authorities and make up stories saying a suspected Gülen supporter is an ISIS terrorist.
Yeah, the Swiss authorities will take that with more than a grain of salt ....
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Old 23.07.2016, 01:24
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I didn't mean Tayyip's fans but the Turkish embassy. They can say they will take actions against Gülen supporters but they are not in any way in power to do so in Switzerland.



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Again I didn't mean the supporters, those are mostly uneducated, stupid Maganda!!

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"They can say they will take actions against Gülen supporters " Accuse them of crimes and then demand they are extradited, example, Gulen himself!
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Old 23.07.2016, 02:14
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"They can say they will take actions against Gülen supporters " Accuse them of crimes and then demand they are extradited, example, Gulen himself!
Did some research!
A main condition that Switzerland provides legal support like extradition, is the so-called dual criminality - that the offence must be one that is punishable in both Switzerland as well as in Turkey.
Membership in a terrorist organization in Switzerland is forbidden. However, the Gülen movement is not on any Swiss list of terrorist organizations. According to the authorities there is therefore no risk for internal and external security.

Also Switzerland will not extradite people if the request is seen as politically motivated.
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:44
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"The first decree signed by Erdoğan (in the state of emergency) authorises the closure of 1,043 private schools, 1,229 charities and foundations, 19 trade unions, 15 universities and 35 medical institutions over suspected links to the Gülen movement, the state news agency Anadolu reported on Saturday.

Yes let us keep everybody ignorant to prevent them asking difficult questions!

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Old 24.07.2016, 12:26
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Today, it was announced that Erdogan's presidential guard would be disbanded, after 300 of the 2,500 officers from the elite unit were rounded up over suspected links to the coup.
The presidential guard did not last long, 2 years?

The members of the guard must have been carefully selected!!

Seems that Erdogan has a problem knowing who to trust and the more people he arrests or fires so the more enemies he creates.

Anybody think we will see a presidential guard version 2 created?
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