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Old 03.08.2016, 19:26
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Italian PM Renzi and Erdogan having some words today because Italy continues to investigate Erdogans son for money laundering.
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Old 04.08.2016, 14:28
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

After reading all these pages, I can clearly see the best policy for turkey is to have a balanced approach in its both foreign and domestic policies.

One of the biggest problems is that the country has no strategy today. I hate Erdogan but he is just a result. Tomorrow there will be another showmen. As one of the earlier posts said, he is pushing ways which are historically proven to be disastrous to the country and of course to himself. He still fails to see the only to progression is through open dialog with every part of the society.

On the other hand, the so called Allies of Turkey failed to see that the last coup attempt and attacking the national assembly was beyond Erdogan. They dont like Erdogan and this was their chance to convey the message that Erdogan is not Turkey. They should have stand with the democracy.

I just had a great vacation the last ten days in Turkey and all looked ok. However, I dont know what will happen next. Turkey was in need of a big system check and correction. The check is completed and some actions are being taken, but it is hard to say neither the problem detection nor the corrections are right.The next months and years will define the future for Turkey.

Maybe the country needs to hit to even a lower bottom before it evolves.
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Old 10.08.2016, 23:13
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Turkish admiral claims asylum in US.

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Old 10.08.2016, 23:33
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Turkish admiral claims asylum in US.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37032171
Well when you see photographs of the senior Turkish military personnel in Turkish courts with their bruises and bandages then they would have to be nuts to not apply for asylum if they got an opportunity!!
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Old 10.08.2016, 23:40
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After reading all these pages, I can clearly see the best policy for turkey is to have a balanced approach in its both foreign and domestic policies.

One of the biggest problems is that the country has no strategy today. I hate Erdogan but he is just a result. Tomorrow there will be another showmen. As one of the earlier posts said, he is pushing ways which are historically proven to be disastrous to the country and of course to himself. He still fails to see the only to progression is through open dialog with every part of the society.

On the other hand, the so called Allies of Turkey failed to see that the last coup attempt and attacking the national assembly was beyond Erdogan. They dont like Erdogan and this was their chance to convey the message that Erdogan is not Turkey. They should have stand with the democracy.

I just had a great vacation the last ten days in Turkey and all looked ok. However, I dont know what will happen next. Turkey was in need of a big system check and correction. The check is completed and some actions are being taken, but it is hard to say neither the problem detection nor the corrections are right.The next months and years will define the future for Turkey.

Maybe the country needs to hit to even a lower bottom before it evolves.
"The country has no strategy" Actually it does have a strategy which is to appoint Erdogan as the Supreme leader/Caliph with unlimited powers!

"Turkey was in need of a big system check and correction." There is a civil war going on in the South East, democratic opposition has been destroyed and the rule of justice no longer applies. The correction is obvious; return to democracy and stop sending legally elected opposition MPs and their supporters to jail!

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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Turkey allows sex with children!
So far in Turkey sexual intercourse with children under 15 was an offence. Now the Constitutional Court has abolished this law.

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Old 13.08.2016, 13:31
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

We have just come back from Turkey never seen so much security in an airport before. As soon as we walked in they scanned our suitcases and bags before we checked our luggage in. Then scanned again, then another check and another, police everywhere.
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Old 17.08.2016, 17:22
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

Turkey just announced they will release 38,000 prisoners to make room for coup plotters! You could not invent this stuff
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Old 17.08.2016, 17:29
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Turkey just announced they will release 38,000 prisoners to make room for coup plotters! You could not invent this stuff
Yes, saw that earlier.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tu...KCN10S0EQ?il=0
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Old 17.08.2016, 17:34
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Turkey allows sex with children!
So far in Turkey sexual intercourse with children under 15 was an offence. Now the Constitutional Court has abolished this law.

Source (German language)
I think this requires some details.

First of all,the decision is made by the constitutional court of Turkey and not the government.( shit, they made me defend them)

Second, the reason for the decision is that the current law does not make any distinction on the age of the perpetrators. The court said, a 13 year old having sex with another 13 year old is a different thing than a 40 year old having sex with a 13 year old.

Lastly, the decision will be effective after six months to give the government the time to make necessary changes in the law as per the observations and suggestions. The minister of justice made statement that the steps will be taken and under no circumstances this crime will go unpunished.

As much as I hate the government, the events should not be taken out of concept.

Found the press release from the Constitutional court (in english): http://www.constitutionalcourt.gov.t...detail/29.html

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Old 17.08.2016, 17:37
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Re: What is happening in Turkey tonight?

I am so pissed at this.. The crimes were not committed against the state and they should not be the ones deciding on who gets out and who stays in.
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Old 17.08.2016, 23:27
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I think this requires some details.

First of all,the decision is made by the constitutional court of Turkey and not the government.( shit, they made me defend them)

Second, the reason for the decision is that the current law does not make any distinction on the age of the perpetrators. The court said, a 13 year old having sex with another 13 year old is a different thing than a 40 year old having sex with a 13 year old.

Lastly, the decision will be effective after six months to give the government the time to make necessary changes in the law as per the observations and suggestions. The minister of justice made statement that the steps will be taken and under no circumstances this crime will go unpunished.

As much as I hate the government, the events should not be taken out of concept.

Found the press release from the Constitutional court (in english): http://www.constitutionalcourt.gov.t...detail/29.html
"The minister of justice made statement that the steps will be taken and under no circumstances this crime will go unpunished." Politicians say lots of things; let us check in 6 months what really happens.
I hope Turkey will not join those other Islam countries that allow marriage of pre-teen girls to old men
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Old 17.08.2016, 23:39
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"The minister of justice made statement that the steps will be taken and under no circumstances this crime will go unpunished." Politicians say lots of things; let us check in 6 months what really happens.
I hope Turkey will not join those other Islam countries that allow marriage of pre-teen girls to old men
Agreed,hence no need to react to half truths as of now.this is a very common practice improve the laws in place.even if it was another government the process would be same.
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Old 18.08.2016, 01:30
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Agreed,hence no need to react to half truths as of now.this is a very common practice improve the laws in place.even if it was another government the process would be same.
"this is a very common practice improve the laws in place" So you can give examples of this common practice?
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Old 18.08.2016, 08:59
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Well of course. Here is the database for it:
http://www.constitutionalcourt.gov.tr/index.html

In Turkey both real people and organizations can go to the constitutional court to object to a law in place if it is against constitution. This is the sole reason why thus court exists. Another way is to go to the European Tribunals.
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Old 18.08.2016, 11:10
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Well of course. Here is the database for it:
http://www.constitutionalcourt.gov.tr/index.html

In Turkey both real people and organizations can go to the constitutional court to object to a law in place if it is against constitution. This is the sole reason why thus court exists. Another way is to go to the European Tribunals.
So you have no other examples of "this very common practice improve the laws in place" of cancelling an important law like "crime against children".
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Old 18.08.2016, 11:25
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So you have no other examples of "this very common practice improve the laws in place" of cancelling an important law like "crime against children".
Oh the ignorance...

You dont have the slightest clue on what you are talking about. I am showing you how the laws are improved in the country. Explaining you the process. I tried my best but clearly you are after something else. Nevertheless, let me show again.

First of all,the decision does not cancel anything. You can try if you like and we will all see how you will be punished.

Second, it is a great thing that there are not many decisions like this for the laws concerning children. It shows that the standards are already good. But of course as you have a different agenda you will pull this in another way. Therefore, I invite you to show us other laws which does not punish the crimes against children.

Lastly, the whole database I have shared has many instances where the laws made by the government are overturned. So when you say that I have no example, it only makes me doubt your intelligence.
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Oh the ignorance...

You dont have the slightest clue on what you are talking about. I am showing you how the laws are improved in the country. Explaining you the process. I tried my best but clearly you are after something else. Nevertheless, let me show again.

First of all,the decision does not cancel anything. You can try if you like and we will all see how you will be punished.

Second, it is a great thing that there are not many decisions like this for the laws concerning children. It shows that the standards are already good. But of course as you have a different agenda you will pull this in another way. Therefore, I invite you to show us other laws which does not punish the crimes against children.

Lastly, the whole database I have shared has many instances where the laws made by the government are overturned. So when you say that I have no example, it only makes me doubt your intelligence.
"database I have shared has many instances where the laws made by the government are overturned" You quote no actual examples

In turn I doubt your credibility

When posters turn to insulting me then it is clear they are losing the argument
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I always had the impression that Erdogan is Turkey's law
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"database I have shared has many instances where the laws made by the government are overturned" You quote no actual examples

In turn I doubt your credibility

When posters turn to insulting me then it is clear they are losing the argument
It is not my credibility as I am not conveying anything subjective. I merely share to you the facts but you keep ignoring it. You can take any of the hundreds of examples.

I am not here to win or lose but get the record straight and again your comment clearly shows what you are after.

You fail to prove any point with facts but still trying argue. Thats is an indication of lack of intelligence. No wonder you are confused.
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