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Old 23.07.2016, 12:00
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Are you an accountant?
Couldn't be farther from the truth.

Nor am I Erdogan, by the way. I can only presume this suggestion indicates a misguided attempt at humour.
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Old 23.07.2016, 12:02
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Now that is casting the net wide. Given that the number one cause of death in that period was actual combat, you're comparing apples to oranges.

Perhaps I'm just too technical. "Identify, isolate, eliminate" has always served me well.
while i was semi-joking, the point is that it gets worse (war) before matters are overall improved.

like brexit??

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Old 23.07.2016, 12:03
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So you think a witch-hunt will improve matters?
Thats as silly of an over-reaction as calling me a racist bigot for it. The cause of this is the mismanagement of a social experiment by the government. They have shown very little respect for their countries, its people, its cultures and its communities. This is where the impact of all of this is.
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Old 23.07.2016, 12:12
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I can't believe how some people just couldn't accept and were hoping that it's the Skin Heads or Nazi or The Baader Meinhof. Anybody but a Muslim! LOL.

You guys are pathetic. Pathetic for not seeing or understanding the situation in front of you. Innocent kids, families are being killed in most barbaric ways in broad daylight in public places almost every week now IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, and you say we should just carry on because the same amount of people die in car accidents
A paucity of facts doesn't seem to be any hindrance to your feverish imagination. We know nothing about his motives thus far, and the fact that he is Iranian only makes the situation less clear since I cannot recall a single terrorist incident on the West involving a Shiaa Muslim (the diametric opposite to ISIS).
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Old 23.07.2016, 12:17
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Thats as silly of an over-reaction as calling me a racist bigot for it. The cause of this is the mismanagement of a social experiment by the government. They have shown very little respect for their countries, its people, its cultures and its communities. This is where the impact of all of this is.
I don't remember calling anyone a racist bigot at any time.

So you don't want a witch-hunt? What do you want then?
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:03
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I don't remember calling anyone a racist bigot at any time.

So you don't want a witch-hunt? What do you want then?
Sorry, I used the term "racist bigot"

Some people seem to have assumed that I was referring to them although I did not mention names; for the life of me I cannot imagine why they would assume they are the ones?
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:06
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Re: Shootings in Munich

Police press conference just on n24.

No evidence of terrorist leanings, but that he appears to have been obsessed with mass shootings.
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:07
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Re: Shootings in Munich

Munich press conference live on CNN.

No apparent political motivation from attacker who received psychiatric care 5 years ago.

Police received 4,300 emergency phone calls in Munich last night. 400% more than a usual day.

Shooter had 300 bullets in backpack.

All dead are from Munich. All but one, are less than 20 year old, 3 were female.
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:21
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Munich press conference live on CNN.

No apparent political motivation from attacker who received psychiatric care 5 years ago.

Police received 4,300 emergency phone calls in Munich last night. 400% more than a usual day.

Shooter had 300 bullets in backpack.

All dead are from Munich. All but one, are less than 20 year old, 3 were female.
Worrying times that an 18yr old can source that much ammunition.
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:25
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Worrying times that an 18yr old can source that much ammunition.
Without attracting the parent's attention.
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its cultures and its communities. This is where the impact of all of this is.
"A bullied loner of German-Iranian descent." Ask Andy Murray what happens when bullied loners who are short of support get loose.
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Old 23.07.2016, 13:56
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Ask Andy Murray what happens when bullied loners who are short of support get loose.
Are you making a comparison with Thomas Hamilton, alleged child sex abuser who shot and killed sixteen 5 year old kids and their teacher?
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Re: Shootings in Munich

Let's get some perspective here instead of all the rabid, misinformed posts that are making the atmosphere here toxic.


I was involved in a terrorist bombing as a kid. The attack was claimed by a German organisation and the target was the Lufthansa office in Manchester city centre. This was pre-internet, so can only be sourced via newspaper archives, as any online search brings up the 1996 Manchester bombing by the IRA. Oh the irony of one bomb attack overshadowing another....


My OH's family, who I spent time with two weeks ago, experienced a terrorist attack on their business premisses, (Cafe Zurich, Johannesburg) where a limpet mine was placed under one of the tables. The perpetrators were ANC.


Incidents like this are dramatic, and we find it unnerving that innocents are drawn into a situation that they have no control over.


For the more outspoken members in this thread, the most bomb threats over the last 30 days have been in the US, so you can all do one with the Europe knocking crap. How's that for a bit of perspective!

http://globalincidentmap.com/incidents.php?typeid=4


But if you still want to talk general statistics....my 59yr old brother was assaulted at midday last Friday whilst walking across a field near his home, and within a mile of the town centre. He was attacked by two, well dressed, caucasian, local men who were demanding money. One of them punched him in the face, and my brother punched him back (he has three teeth marks in his knuckles to show for it). The men said "We've got the wrong one here" and ran away because they realised my brother can handle himself when it comes to 'fisticuffs'. My brother's nose was broken (which never happened in 30yrs of playing Rugby League) and part of his lip was ripped and hanging off.

Just one problem....my brother is on blood thinning drugs since he had a heart attack at the gym 4yrs ago, which resulted in him having 3 stents fitted. By the time he got to hospital and they managed to stop the bleeding, he'd lost one third of his blood, which the doctors described as "a life threatening amount", and he was kept in hospital for 4 days. This incident is well documented online, but forgive me for not posting the links as I find the photos too upsetting.


What are the stats on that scenario eh? Can any bright spark enlighten me on that one?


When your number's up, it's up! Accept that! All you can do in the meantime is minimise the risks, be aware of your surroundings and be prepared to a degree. Spreading hate and fear only breeds hate and fear. I'll take America as a shining example of how that ends up Let's see how they've fared after 5yrs of Trump.
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The black dogging begins....
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Old 23.07.2016, 14:29
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I don't remember calling anyone a racist bigot at any time.

So you don't want a witch-hunt? What do you want then?
This backward slide needs to stop, and everybody really ought to respect the communities and the places where they are living, as they are not the only ones living there. That is the basis of society and civilisation.

I love cultures of all kinds. I am a multiculturalist. I've studied and learned a number of them, and can respect them for what they are and how they are. In Europe, there is this weird self-hatred for its own culture which is like a bigotry directed at itself. I don't see how that can lead to anywhere other than its own demise. It's somewhat retarded, and it will lead to something extremely boring.

I'm not a native, but I see value in nativism in comparison to this backward slide to a world where its cultures have been obliterated and its people are stripped of their identities. If it were Momoyamo Indian culture that is being affected, you folks would probably be up in arms. Why treat European cultures any different from non-European cultures? I think its a hypocritical perspective.

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I'll take America as a shining example of how that ends up Let's see how they've fared after 5yrs of Trump.
I don't see how much worse it could be than what we've seen from Merkel in the last two.
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Re: Shootings in Munich

Police investigator Robert Heimberger said on Saturday it appeared the gunman had hacked a Facebook account and lured people to the shopping centre with an offer of free food. The post, sent from a young woman’s account, urged people to come to McDonald’s at 4pm, saying: “I’ll give you something if you want, but not too expensive.”

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A paucity of facts doesn't seem to be any hindrance to your feverish imagination. We know nothing about his motives thus far, and the fact that he is Iranian only makes the situation less clear since I cannot recall a single terrorist incident on the West involving a Shiaa Muslim (the diametric opposite to ISIS).
What you don't want to understand is the fact that it doesn't matter what kind of Muslim he is, what matters is that he is a follower of the Qoran. The Qoran is a book which calls for killing and slaying of all nonbelivers, so every Muslim believing in the qoran will have an obligation to kill whoever doesn't believe in that book. This is the Problem!
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What you don't want to understand is the fact that it doesn't matter what kind of Muslim he is, what matters is that he is a follower of the Qoran. The Qoran is a book which calls for killing and slaying of all nonbelivers, so every Muslim believing in the qoran will have an obligation to kill whoever doesn't believe in that book. This is the Problem!
Nothing to do with him being part Iranian or Muslim. He was a German kid with psychiatric problems who had a fascination for mass killings, or so the police believe at the moment.
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Nothing to do with him being part Iranian or Muslim. He was a German kid with psychiatric problems who had a fascination for mass killings, or so the police believe at the moment.
What the German police believe and what they say they believe are two entirely different things as Koln has proven.
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What you don't want to understand is the fact that it doesn't matter what kind of Muslim he is, what matters is that he is a follower of the Qoran. The Qoran is a book which calls for killing and slaying of all nonbelivers, so every Muslim believing in the qoran will have an obligation to kill whoever doesn't believe in that book. This is the Problem!
Thomas Hamilton, Michael Ryan, Dylan Klebold, Bum-kon Woo, Friedrich Leibacher, Ted Bundy. What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter what kind of person it is or what their religion might be. Your tiny mind is made up.

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