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Old 10.11.2016, 23:08
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I've got a few things to say on this subject that I didn't find in the first 5 pages of this thread (after that I didn't bother as it usually descends into attacks):
To add, -Don't be surprised to see a rinse and repeat of Brexit/Trump in Europe.
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I personally found the burning of Trump in effigy in LA to be as low and hateful as anything that Trump said.
I wonder what would happen if Trump is a truly terrible President? Would America make him their own Guy Fawkes figure and burn his effigy every 9th November?

The Edenbridge & Lewes bonfire got in early on this I'm afraid.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trum...ations-1590105

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How can we tell our children and grandchildren, daughters and grand-daughters in particular- to respect someone they have seen ranting and raving at the above on the news
I think you've hit the nail on the head there Odile.

I always work on the principle that even the most dislikable person had a redeeming quality, and that has saved many a work relationship in the past. With Trump, I can't find a redeeming quality about the man, therefore, I feel absolutely no respect for him and that bothers me. I keep hearing his comment...

"I know words! I know all the best words!"

Gees! I'd have to be on my second bottle of vodka before thinking I could say that in a public place and not be escorted home for my own safety.
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Old 10.11.2016, 23:34
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To add, -Don't be surprised to see a rinse and repeat of Brexit/Trump in Europe.
Well what do you know, finally something I agree with.

And that is precisely why I'm very worried about the developments this year. Nationalism. Protectionism. Isolation.

I bet 100$ Le Pen will be elected in F next year.

We'll have so much fun in Europe and in the world, going forward. And it's of course not at all history repeating itself.
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Admirable leaders, all of them.

But what have they to do with this election?

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It wasn't me who started a new thread about 'nuclear bunkers in Swiss houses' within hours of the result...

Our little grand-daughter is 7 and when she saw her parents distraught at breakfast yesterday morning- she got quite upset about that horrible bully man becoming President and asked (no idea where she got that word from!?) 'can't we just veto him out'? OUt of the mouth of babes.
I do wonder how Muslim, Mexican, Black children felt at breakfast time yesterday - if even my little blondy blue eyes grand-daughter in the UK was upset about the result.

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Of course these ideas would generate growth and jobs.
Just while you've mentioned Trump and growth in the same post, one thing's been bothering me...more out of curiosity than anything.

Does Trump wear heels? He walks like a man who either wears heels or has a really big belly and skinny, spindley legs.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Last time we were in the States, we spent some time in Boston and CApe Cod then drove to Virginia viy NY and NJ. When staying on the New Jersey Shore, we spent a day at Atlantic City on a day of strikes due to Trump terrible wages and workers' hours and conditions. How anyone can believe he will represent the 'little' people- is beyond me.

And all this posturing about cheap imports from China- when the millions of Trump red caps used during the campaign all imported from .... China, of course
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

This question is a no-brainer. From Trump's words and actions throughout the 2016 campaign, I know he will be a bad President.

The only question is HOW bad, and in what way?
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Old 11.11.2016, 06:13
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

For me, his one redeeming quality is his supposedly good relationship with Putin, who has been sabre rattling a bit too much lately.

I won't hold my breath, but it's the only good thing I can come up with.
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For me, his one redeeming quality is his supposedly good relationship with Putin, who has been sabre rattling a bit too much lately.

I won't hold my breath, but it's the only good thing I can come up with.
Ain't no such a thing as free lunch....but who is going to pay for this supposedly good relation of him with Putin?


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Trump is all about the deal.
But in Trumps world, sometimes, to get a good deal for both sides, you've got to screw a 3rd-party in exchange...
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Ain't no such a thing as free lunch....but who is going to pay for this supposedly good relation of him with Putin? This.
I read that the US banks refuse to lend Trump any money, and he now finances his deals with Russian money.

Maybe it is true, it explains his friendliness towards Putin, but how would Trump get aroung the USA & EU trade embargos?

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/...t-russia-14789

https://www.google.ch/#q=Trump+Russian+finance

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/...7ab85b248964a4
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Our little grand-daughter is 7 and when she saw her parents distraught at breakfast yesterday morning- she got quite upset about that horrible bully man becoming President and asked (no idea where she got that word from!?) 'can't we just veto him out'? OUt of the mouth of babes.
Crying over an election result is only slightly less worse than crying over a football match.
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Old 11.11.2016, 09:47
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Crying over an election result is only slightly less worse than crying over a football match.
Oh please, you're smarter than that. A football match has zero impact on anything. But whoever holds the position of the most powerful position in the world - oh you bet that has an influence on literally everyone. On some more, on some less, but yes, everyone.


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Maybe it is true, it explains his friendliness towards Putin, but how would Trump get aroung the USA & EU trade embargos?
You guys are way too concerned with minor details such as procedure and financing. He will make America great again!! Who cares how
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Crying over an election result is only slightly less worse than crying over a football match.
I think the ramifications of one are slightly greater than the other, Loz.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In order to survive the next four years, I have signed up for a lobotomy that will erase any memory of Trump previous to Nov. 8, allowing me to truly believe he'll do a good job as President.
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Oh please, you're smarter than that. A football match has zero impact on anything. But whoever holds the position of the most powerful position in the world - oh you bet that has an influence on literally everyone. On some more, on some less, but yes, everyone.
Do let me know how it's affecting your life.

And even if it is, like a football match, crying about it isn't going to help.
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This question is a no-brainer. From Trump's words and actions throughout the 2016 campaign, I know he will be a bad President.

The only question is HOW bad, and in what way?

I suspect he will be bold and apologetic. He may even be uncompromising on certain things. He will likely do things some people will not like. But I think he will get results.
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Oh please, you're smarter than that. A football match has zero impact on anything. But whoever holds the position of the most powerful position in the world - oh you bet that has an influence on literally everyone. On some more, on some less, but yes, everyone.
Unless he goes to war with someone big and scary - the average person's life is not going to change sufficiently for them to notice.

That's the bizarre thing with politics at the moment - for vast swathes of the population it makes absolutely bugger all difference who is in charge, their political ideology and what they achieve. It would be nice to think it did - but it doesn't.

Taxes might rise or fall a little - the money you take home might increase/decrease a little - goods might change slightly in value - but in reality nothing much changes. It never does.

What changes is if something big happens - wars (or near wars) are perhaps the best example. Comparisons are being drawn between Hitler and Trump both rising to power on the back of nationalistic thinking. The truth is that Hitler's was driven by nationalism taken from the whipping they had received after WW1 and Trump's from internal alienation. Who would Trump go to war on? The Mexicans?? He may be a big-mouth and spout off left, right and centre but he will shackled by the Senate and House if he tries anything too outrageous.

The impact of the election win is not what he will do or achieve, but more that in reinforces a leaning of developed countries away from the more liberal and PC politics of the last 40 years. Brexit and Trump could lead to more right wing victories in 2017
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Do let me know how it's affecting your life.

And even if it is, like a football match, crying about it isn't going to help.
Newsflash Loz: some people take country and indeed world-changing election and politics very seriously very seriously. Those of a more sensitive nature cry when highly emotional, it's an evolutionary trait designed to reduce stress. Women are also 5x more prone to it than men.

Now that you understand the basics of why people cry, how exactly does it affect you if someone else does it?

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For me, his one redeeming quality is his supposedly good relationship with Putin, who has been sabre rattling a bit too much lately.

I won't hold my breath, but it's the only good thing I can come up with.
Trump claims (and nobody disputes this) that he's never met Putin. As far as I've heard and read, he's only ever spoken to Putin once, when the latter called him to congratulate him on his election. That doesn't make for much of a relationship.

If anything, my guess is that Trump will be twisted round Putin's little finger.
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Trump claims (and nobody disputes this) that he's never met Putin. As far as I've heard and read, he's only ever spoken to Putin once, when the latter called him to congratulate him on his election. That doesn't make for much of a relationship.

If anything, my guess is that Trump will be twisted round Putin's little finger.
Trump now says he never met Putin — here's footage of when he said the opposite
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