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Old 11.11.2016, 11:12
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I just wonder how long it will take before those pistol toting yeehaw cowboys realize that they were sold a bunch of lies, while their illustrious leader elect is off in St Andrews playing a few rounds of golf and grabbing poor wee Scots lasses pussies.
He does realize that in Scotland, not everybody wearing a skirt is a lassie, right?
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:12
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Of course. On Craigslist, "This posting has been deleted by its author.". How do I upload a screenshot here?
That could just as easily be phony, by the same sort of people that would fake exaggerated videos of crying emotional Hillary supporters.

Trump has been known to hire extras, in any case:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...n-2016/399002/

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Old 11.11.2016, 11:16
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Old 11.11.2016, 11:20
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Can't say we saw anyone type anything, but it is quite conceivable they would orchestrate such a thing. Not sure what difference it makes for the outcome.

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Really Craigs list? the obvious choice for recruitment to the revolution :-) Their slogan should be Craigslist, not just for swingers and old pervs looking for chicks with d1cks! Thats your proof of a conspiracy against Trump? LOL.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:24
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Thanks for that.

Now please tell me, given your predliliction to disbelieve what people post here on EF, why is it that you find something that you found elsewhere on the internet, most particularly on twitter, to be of undeniable veracity?
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:29
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Thanks for that.

Now please tell me, given your predliliction to disbelieve what people post here on EF, why is it that you find something that you found elsewhere on the internet, most particularly on twitter, to be of undeniable veracity?

How does one disbelieve another holds a particular opinion? Although I do consider events and opinions in the US with more weight.

Meanwhile, those celebrating Trump's election:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/market...6-11?r=US&IR=T
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:38
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Nice.

Both sides seem to enjoy picking up on each others more "dramatic" reactions and using that as a "look how rational we are compared to them" cheap shot but in reality most people don't react with such drama.

Unfortunately, the media doesn't sell copy based on the "meh" type reactions from 95% of the rest of the population.

Everybody loves a bit of drama to validate their own opinions, don't they?
If only.

Looking at the stuff leftist friends are posting on facebook right now there is a huge sympathy and support for the anti Trump protests and virtually no condemnation from the left. I struggle to believe that this is a micrsoscopic minority being magnified by selective reporting.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:44
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If only.

Looking at the stuff leftist friends are posting on facebook right now there is a huge sympathy and support for the anti Trump protests and virtually no condemnation from the left. I struggle to believe that this is a micrsoscopic minority being magnified by selective reporting.
Ironic seeing as it's likely FB and Twitter were instrumental in propelling Trump to victory in the first place.

F**ked up world.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:46
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If only.

Looking at the stuff leftist friends are posting on facebook right now there is a huge sympathy and support for the anti Trump protests and virtually no condemnation from the left. I struggle to believe that this is a micrsoscopic minority being magnified by selective reporting.

Protest is quite alright in the US. I think its healthy, although easily becomes counter-productive. Particularly if it escalates into violence. I think the violent anti-Trump protests we saw in California and BLM is what mobilised many people to vote for Trump.

I'm sure some of the smarter leftists will start trying to tamp it down when they realise it is having an opposite effect.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:49
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If only.

Looking at the stuff leftist friends are posting on facebook right now there is a huge sympathy and support for the anti Trump protests and virtually no condemnation from the left. I struggle to believe that this is a micrsoscopic minority being magnified by selective reporting.
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Ironic seeing as it's likely FB and Twitter were instrumental in propelling Trump to victory in the first place.

F**ked up world.

This is extremely dependent on who you have on facebook (or Twitter). My statically insignificant accounts apparently are almost entirely leftist--and quite a few on the militant side of it as well. My respect of a lot of friends have definitely gone down a notch---not for their beliefs, but for how they defend and define them. My feeds seem to be an echo chamber for a lot of misinformation on the topic. Of course months of this echo chamber led everyone to be severely shocked (myself as well) when Trump won.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:51
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In the meantime- with exactly the same numbers under the French voting system- Clinton would have been elected with more than 55% of the vote - and everyone would be talking about the 'will of the people'... to elect Clinton.


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Protest is quite alright in the US. I think its healthy, although easily becomes counter-productive. Particularly if it escalates into violence. I think the violent anti-Trump protests we saw in California is what mobilised many people to vote for Trump.

I'm sure some of the smarter leftists will start trying to tamp it down when they realise it is having an opposite effect.
Actually, I'm surprised things have got this far at all. The right often tends to act in knee-jerk mode. We want A, therefore we will demand A, and we will demand it now. Typically such demands lead nowhere. Chunks of the left do that too, but I believe the left has traditionally had more strategic thinkers on ts side. We want to achieve A but rather than demand it outright we will ask for B, C and D instead and create a situation where A will eventually be unavoidable.

It seems to me the right has got a lot smarter and more strategic these last couple of years and strangely that the leftist strategists didn't see it coming.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:56
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In the meantime- with exactly the same numbers under the French voting system- Clinton would have been elected with more than 55% of the vote - and everyone would be talking about the 'will of the people'... to elect Clinton.


Democracy can mean 100 things, under 100s of regimes.
Actually, in the French sstem there would be two rounds and it could well be that Sanders would have eliminated Clinton in the first round.
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Old 11.11.2016, 11:58
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He does realize that in Scotland, not everybody wearing a skirt is a lassie, right?
Hence the pu**y grabbing.
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This is extremely dependent on who you have on facebook (or Twitter). My statically insignificant accounts apparently are almost entirely leftist--and quite a few on the militant side of it as well. My respect of a lot of friends have definitely went down a notch---not for their beliefs, but for how they defend and define them. My feeds seem to be an echo chamber for a lot of misinformation on the topic. Of course months of this echo chamber led everyone to be severely shocked (myself as well) when Trump won.
This has been insane, and it still is. I've seen Facebook acquaintances call each other all kinds of nasty and venomous names. I withhold my opinions on FB, which I'm sure a vast majority of sane people do. So you may only be seeing the less modest opinions on that media, but not the majority nor mainstream.
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In the meantime- with exactly the same numbers under the French voting system- Clinton would have been elected with more than 55% of the vote
Where do you get 55% from?

The actual number is 50.1%.

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Actually, I'm surprised things have got this far at all. The right often tends to act in knee-jerk mode. We want A, therefore we will demand A, and we will demand it now. Typically such demands lead nowhere. Chunks of the left do that too, but I believe the left has traditionally had more strategic thinkers on ts side. We want to achieve A but rather than demand it outright we will ask for B, C and D instead and create a situation where A will eventually be unavoidable.

It seems to me the right has got a lot smarter and more strategic these last couple of years and strangely that the leftist strategists didn't see it coming.
I think the right has a particular objective most of the time. The left are quite hazy about what they want, only that they don't like something.

When I look at the protesters, I wonder if they even know or understand what they even want. So they can go on for days until they get tired.
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Actually, in the French sstem there would be two rounds and it could well be that Sanders would have eliminated Clinton in the first round.
Well, Sanders would have eliminated Clinton had the DNC not tilted the table. And Biden would have beaten Trump had Hillary not jockeyed for her privilege.

The DNC will fracture.
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Actually, in the French sstem there would be two rounds and it could well be that Sanders would have eliminated Clinton in the first round.
It doesn't matter how it would have been if it had been France, Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, or Canada... this is about America.

My objection is that America doesn't seem to be itself anymore.
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