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Yep- he wanted to WIN - he is not interested, and perhaps even terrified and knows he is totally out of his depth- to govern.
He he....wishful thinking?
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Where did you see that? I know some hecklers were pummelled inside Trump rallies. But people were beaten up, shot at, and killed by anti-Trump protesters outside of rallies.

Hillary Clinton. Her campaign started the Obama birth certificate question when she ran against him.

And then Obama and Clintons invite rappers to perform for them on stage laced with colourful lyrics. There is quite a lot of over-reaction and hypocrisy over Trump's foul mouth. I don't think it is as important as how some people would like to play it out to be.

So in this, the value here is a needed change in direction. It could potentially go sideways and get disastrous. But relax for now, it hasn't yet. And there really isn't a lot anyone can do about this for now. I'll give you a minute of whining along with you if it makes you feel better.

Personally, I could give a flying fck about ideology. I'm sick of it. I want 0 ideology, and I only want results from these bastard politicians. That is what I am looking at. If Trump truly starts doing things, like obfuscating his failures, abusing his position, advancing an ideology and forcing it down people's throats, I'll join you in protest, ok? In the meantime, do you think you can consider how this opportunity might benefit all of us? Is that really nuts?
Unlike you, I actually have to do things so I won't bother digging out answers to all of your points.

If you don't actually view Trump and his comments as abhorrent then I am afraid there is no point even trying to continue to discuss it with you. Anyway we well know your opinions on many things, as you like to express them continuously on this forum. Adios hombre, I am out of the door.
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Come on Loz! Odile was refering to a 7yr old child.

Whether we like it or not, a 7yr old begins to get a good grasp of the World outside of the home. I remember my parents watching the Munich Olympics hostage situation on live tv just as one of the hostages was shot. They didn't know that was going to happen whilst I was in the room. I was 7 and really upset by this, so my parents had to sit me down and explain what was going on and that it was a long way away.

Odile's granddaughter feels what she feels. She's probably seen enough in the media to come to her own conclusion about Trump. You might have seen that with your own kids, but the issue is, how do we explain to kids that it isn't alright to behave as the President elect has behaved.
It's disturbing when adults push their political anxieties off onto their children. It would have been a good moment to try to teach those kids some perspective and resilience, which they're going to need in this life.

By definition, elections will never go the way we want them to all of the time. If we're lucky, they'll break our way 50% of the time. Yet society survives.
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98-100% of that is fake. E.g., ABC news.

There's an epidemic of false so-called hate crime reports in the US right now.
It did cross my mind that some of that might not be genuine but I doubt that 98-100% would be fake. That second link you post lists 246 cases, which isn't all that much given the size of the USA. Interestingly, the site seems to be completely anonymous, with an anonymous domain registration, so it's not possible to tell who is behind it.
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It's disturbing when adults push their political anxieties off onto their children. It would have been a good moment to try to teach those kids some perspective and resilience, which they're going to need in this life.

By definition, elections will never go the way we want them to all of the time. If we're lucky, they'll break our way 50% of the time. Yet society survives.
My 8 year old niece was also against trump because he's mean and fires people. She asked me why Clinton was bad, and I told her that's she accepted 10s of millions of dollars from a King who does let women in his kingdom drive cars, try on clothes or make up, go swimming, or talk to boys. She changed her side very quickly. Although she still thinks the president should be an attack helicopter..... So I guess she's still a Clinton supporter :P
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It's disturbing when adults push their political anxieties off onto their children. It would have been a good moment to try to teach those kids some perspective and resilience, which they're going to need in this life.

By definition, elections will never go the way we want them to all of the time. If we're lucky, they'll break our way 50% of the time. Yet society survives.
My very bright 7 year old granddaughter and her 10 year old brother don't need anything pushed into them to pick up the vibes all around them - I can assure you. Trump has been shouting his vile mouth off on the news day in, day out for weeks - do you think kids are blind and death. Should parents never have the news on- because of people like Trump?
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98-100% of that is fake. E.g., ABC news.

There's an epidemic of false so-called hate crime reports in the US right now.
oh, so the video i posted before of the anti trumpers beating a dude was fake as well. sort of.

they only attacked him because of a traffic argument. but then went apparently apeshit because its a white dude, thus must be a trump voter/racist.
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My very bright 7 year old granddaughter and her 10 year old brother don't need anything pushed into them to pick up the vibes all around them - I can assure you. Trump has been shouting his vile mouth off on the news day in, day out for weeks - do you think kids are blind and death. Should parents never have the news on- because of people like Trump?
7 and 10 year old kids don't even watch the news. And even if they did, there's hardly been wall to wall coverage over here of Trump shouting his vile mouth off.

Filed under things that never happened.
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do you think kids are blind and death. Should parents never have the news on- because of people like Trump?


Or did you mean deaf?
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Deaf - of course- thanks.
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Trump wasn't elected by the right-wing. You should brush up on your US politics knowledge to understand what "right" means in the US. There's nothing, and I mean nothing, conservative about Trump.
Actually, there is. His VP, Mike Pence.

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My 8 year old niece was also against trump because he's mean and fires people. She asked me why Clinton was bad, and I told her that's she accepted 10s of millions of dollars from a King who does let women in his kingdom drive cars, try on clothes or make up, go swimming, or talk to boys. She changed her side very quickly. Although she still thinks the president should be an attack helicopter..... So I guess she's still a Clinton supporter :P
dude thatd be awesome. we should be having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on his body. president apache.
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My very bright 7 year old granddaughter and her 10 year old brother don't need anything pushed into them to pick up the vibes all around them
The problem is the vibes all around them, not Trump.

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My 8 year old niece
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thinks the president should be an attack helicopter
As a card carrying propellorhead I object in the strongest of terms.

Besides, his hands are too small to correct for counterrotation.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Guess he could do a crash course. " How to be a US President for Dummies". Or maybe .......how to pretend to be a US President!
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Yep- he wanted to WIN - he is not interested, and perhaps even terrified and knows he is totally out of his depth- to govern.
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Disgusting.
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Disgusting.
heres another one that is a little bit more believable than a tweet or conveniently washable text on your undamaged car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJenokrmb4
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Come on Loz! Odile was refering to a 7yr old child.

Whether we like it or not, a 7yr old begins to get a good grasp of the World outside of the home. I remember my parents watching the Munich Olympics hostage situation on live tv just as one of the hostages was shot. They didn't know that was going to happen whilst I was in the room. I was 7 and really upset by this, so my parents had to sit me down and explain what was going on and that it was a long way away.

Odile's granddaughter feels what she feels. She's probably seen enough in the media to come to her own conclusion about Trump. You might have seen that with your own kids, but the issue is, how do we explain to kids that it isn't alright to behave as the President elect has behaved.
Kids of that age are preceptive to snippets of information they pick up randomly which they may well understand in a purely mechanistic sense but typically don't put into full perspective.

Let them see pictures of dead children in Syria on the news and they may well be upset. But if a guy with big hands winning an election causes upset, that's more the anxiety of the parents being projected. I don't believe the concept of repealing Obamacare or building a wall has anything emotional at that age.
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heres another one that is a little bit more believable than a tweet or conveniently washable text on your undamaged car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJenokrmb4

The disgusting goes both ways, in case you thought I would be any less shocked/sad/disgusted if it is the other way around. I'm not.

That being said, assuming the video is real (cause these days, you never know and a video is not worth more or less than a Twitter comment or some smearings on a car as far as the "truth" is concerned), the most disturbing thing is that what seems like 10, 20 people just continue to sit there quietly and apparently can't be bothered to step in and help the girl. Lovely. Really.

What all this shows is how deeply divided the US - and the world - are on many many matters, as well as some of the consequences of that. I already said it, THIS is what disturbs me the most.
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The problem is the vibes all around them, not Trump.

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It is Trump they saw on the news - ranting and raving at Mexicans, Muslims, women - not the vibes. Chicken and egg ...
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