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She teaches Journalism at Georgetown. I wonder how much longer she'll be allowed to do that now that she's come out of the closet.
Does the government have any leverage on ideologues in universities? They hold certain purse strings, don't they?
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Do you really think that because we live in Europe we are not in contact and discussions, over many years- with the people from the USA and heard from their own mouth the **** some of them spout- and how they mirror Fox News or vice-versa?
I don't know what you do. But if someone posts that the Tea Party was a religious movement, then they've lost the plot.
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I didn't - thanks. And I wrote tea party (no capitals) and edited to 'type'

If you are saying that 'tea party type' Republicans generally do not portray very conservative pro-life and often creationist views - despite many of them actually not being Christian at all (as in having no Faith, only 'views') - then, ah well, you are defo deluded and really naïve to boot.

Oft heard 'I am not religious and not a believer, but to save our culture we have to support our Christian Church and way of life, or the Muslims will take over (heard this 100s of times in the UK too btw). The concept of the 'cultural Jew' has long been a reality. that of the 'cultural Christian' is just as relevant and prevalent today. Deny it if you wish, no skin off my nose.
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From the WaPo and NY Post“This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman ‘of color’ — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I’m not a ‘bigot,’ ‘racist,’ ‘chauvinist’ or ‘white supremacist,’ as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some ‘whitelash,” Nomani explained in her column.

“I most certainly reject the trifecta of ‘hatred/division/ignorance.’ I support the Democratic Party’s position on abortion, same-sex marriage and climate change. But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare…Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State.”

She teaches Journalism at Georgetown. I wonder how much longer she'll be allowed to do that now that she's come out of the closet.
Why do you think she was in a closet?
She is well known and has had a web site for many years where she publishes her opinions and has been a Professor at Georgetown for almost 10 years.

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I don't know what you do. But if someone posts that the Tea Party was a religious movement, then they've lost the plot.
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Alright, now I know where the confusion comes from. You are referring to brexit, where I have never commented or have given any contribution on that topic.... Not sure why you were quoting me with regards to brexit.
I was only referring to clarification on the comment on Healthcare, and ensuring the facts and sources were as legit as possible.
I was not quoting you about Brexit, I was quoting ME!

"ensuring the facts and sources were as legit as possible." Reminds me of King Canute trying to stop the tide.

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Just looking the comments on here, the kinds of sources they choose to believe, and the conclusions they jump to should already demonstrate how its all a case of the blind leading the blind.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I'm in NYC. The talk amongst many here is the fact that 53% of white women nationwide voted for Trump; while 94% of black women voted for Hillary. (If you exclude the Mid-atlantic, New England and Calafornia the number of white women for Trump is even higher.)

For many it is incomprehensible that a majority of white women in America would still vote for Trump after all his revelations. For them, the only logical conclusion is that these women put their 'whiteness' ahead of their gender. I don't totally understand that argument, but that seems to be the state of affairs for liberal democrats in NYC.

The Obama coalition is turning into the Obama circular firing squad. It won't be long until there's none left standing.
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I didn't - thanks. And I wrote tea party (no capitals) and edited to 'type'

If you are saying that 'tea party type' Republicans generally do not portray very conservative pro-life and often creationist views - despite many of them actually not being Christian at all (as in having no Faith, only 'views') - then, ah well, you are defo deluded and really naïve to boot.

Oft heard 'I am not religious and not a believer, but to save our culture we have to support our Christian Church and way of life, or the Muslims will take over (heard this 100s of times in the UK too btw). The concept of the 'cultural Jew' has long been a reality. that of the 'cultural Christian' is just as relevant and prevalent today. Deny it if you wish, no skin off my nose.
Your attempt to shift the goal posts on this isn't working. The Tea Party is not a religious movement. Full stop.

And their movement to restore constitutional constraints on the federal government probably looks pretty good to Dems now that Trump, of all people, has won the presidency. Too bad they were all-in with Obama's misuse of executive power no matter what crap he'd pull.
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I'm in NYC. The talk amongst many here is the fact that 53% of white women nationwide voted for Trump; while 94% of black women voted for Hillary. (If you exclude the Mid-atlantic, New England and Calafornia the number of white women for Trump is even higher.)

For many it is incomprehensible that a majority of white women in America would still vote for Trump after all his revelations. For them, the only logical conclusion is that these women put their 'whiteness' ahead of their gender. I don't totally understand that argument, but that seems to be the state of affairs for liberal democrats in NYC.

The Obama coalition is turning into the Obama circular firing squad. It won't be long until there's none left standing.
circular firing squad. i like it.

its what happens when you aim for the victim vote. at some point someone is gonna claim to be the real victim. the previous ally cannot identify with this anymore and starts realizing its all bullshit.

like how the labourer went from darling of the left to enemy of the left.
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I'm in NYC. The talk amongst many here is the fact that 53% of white women nationwide voted for Trump; while 94% of black women voted for Hillary. (If you exclude the Mid-atlantic, New England and Calafornia the number of white women for Trump is even higher.)

For many it is incomprehensible that a majority of white women in America would still vote for Trump after all his revelations. For them, the only logical conclusion is that these women put their 'whiteness' ahead of their gender. I don't totally understand that argument, but that seems to be the state of affairs for liberal democrats in NYC.
What if they simply voted the one they want to be?

This is unrelated - darlings, can ya'll multiquote? This thread is pretty long as it is.

Can I say "darlings" now when Trump trumped all the PC shinenigans?
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circular firing squad. i like it.

its what happens when you aim for the victim vote. at some point someone is gonna claim to be the real victim. the previous ally cannot identify with this anymore and starts realizing its all bullshit.

like how the labourer went from darling of the left to enemy of the left.

Has it dawned on them yet that Trump won because Democrats voted for him? Many republicans stayed home.

I love real life irony.
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It shows integrity and dedication from newly nominated president Donald Trump who won't accept presidential salary. He is already worth over $3.7billion in assets, therefore salary could well go to noble purposes like charities.

https://www.rt.com/usa/366674-trump-...ential-salary/
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It shows integrity and dedication from newly nominated president Donald Trump who won't accept presidential salary. He is already worth over $3.7billion in assets, therefore salary could well go to noble purposes like charities.

https://www.rt.com/usa/366674-trump-...ential-salary/
Sounds good or maybe it is just the Russians pulling his tail
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It shows integrity and dedication from newly nominated president Donald Trump who won't accept presidential salary. He is already worth over $3.7billion in assets, therefore salary could well go to noble purposes like charities.

https://www.rt.com/usa/366674-trump-...ential-salary/
Personally, I wouldn't appreciate that kind of showmanship, nor do I think it is anybody's business. I don't think he should even publicise that. Not necessary.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As I pointed out elsewhere on the web, Trump won because the DNC (and RNC) are totally out of touch with reality.

Bernie vs. Rand Paul would have been a nice election, instead we got the candidates from hell.

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Sounds good or maybe it is just the Russians pulling his tail
No - it's official...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...ident-s-salary

Trump election: Italy's Berlusconi accepts comparisons
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37962988

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Personally, I wouldn't appreciate that kind of showmanship, nor do I think it is anybody's business. I don't think he should even publicise that. Not necessary.
He didn't publicize that. Media are working on his image.
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I'm in NYC. The talk amongst many here is the fact that 53% of white women nationwide voted for Trump; while 94% of black women voted for Hillary. (If you exclude the Mid-atlantic, New England and Calafornia the number of white women for Trump is even higher.)
Until the day when voting in General elections is not secret, we will never have stats like this that can be proven. It would have to require a system similar to when you insert your biometric passport in the machine at an airport, facial recognition matches up, and then, only then are you allowed to publically cast your vote. Until that day, this is purely speculation and conjecture.
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You really don't get this, do you?!

I was not scared one tiny iota because I had the Atlantic Ocean between me and them, and they couldn't be bothered cobbling together the air fare. Losers! I was rightly concerned for my US colleagues however.

I'm nobody's victim. Never have been, never will be! I'm far too headstrong, stubborn and downright bloody arrogant to ever be a victim.

My entire posts on this aspect are to show that these people didn't suddenly grow in numbers or activity with the Obama Presidency. They were doing just fine under GWB too. If you turn a blind eye and ignore this crap, it's never going to go away.

In the first 8months of the forum I worked on, my 'watch' was from 8am-3pm GMT. EST would come online at 2pm GMT and we did a shift handover. I was averaging 40-100 accounts banned and deleted per shift from one far right organisation.

It seems that Hillary's more vocal supporters will have to deal with some nasty stuff, suppose this is part of the "newly found freedom".
I hope they are as stubborn as you are, or if not - develop a really good sense of humour. I tend to believe that social satire will find new ways to manifest itself, we'll probably see a revival of this genre. A real collective soul searching - some might say.
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Can I say "darlings" now when Trump trumped all the PC shinenigans?
Yes, he has, and yes you can, but it would make you sound like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
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Yes, he has, and yes you can, but it would make you sound like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
Zat vould be "daalings".
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As it sinks further in, Trump's campaign is looking like the most brilliant political campaign ever. He baited his opponents with statements that they gobbled up and virtue-signalled on en-masse. They were quite satisfied and pleased with themselves, and assumed it was enough for their victory. They thought they just needed to top it off with Beyonze, JayZ and Madonna.

Meanwhile, without them realising it, he connected with real people and showed them he understood their issues. His opponents never dealt with the their issues. So he robbed them behind their backs.

Fking Brilliant!

Now THAT is the kind of brilliance I would want in a president. Hillary's performance is NOT what I want to see in a president.

We'll see if he demonstrates this aptitude in his upcoming challenges.
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Yes, he has, and yes you can, but it would make you sound like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
I don't think I have an accent anymore, unfortunately. Just a few words, darling is not one of them (NYC cuoffee, pasta, bamboo..as any non-anglophone picks up whatever phonetic tic that walks by).

No Gabor.

I would not credit Trump for the strategy. I do have a feeling there is a slight underdog phenomenon, I wonder. It attracted people.
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