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Old 13.11.2016, 23:59
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Donald says he will deport 2 million illegal immigrants. I wonder if there are really so many remaining, as Obama has deported nearly 2 million already,

http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2...ation-numbers/
USA Today is saying 3 million.

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/...1/13/93767094/
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I now found a quote of 11 million, maybe that includes family members?

It makes you wonder, who will be left there to work in hotels and in the fields....
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I now found a quote of 11 million, maybe that includes family members?

It makes you wonder, who will be left there to work in hotels and in the fields....
Plenty of unemployed American citizens might be pleased to find employment there - presuming their employers are prepared to pay proper salaries.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Now some people in California (Louis Marinelli, an outspoken political activist) want the state to break away from the union,

http://uk.businessinsider.com/calexi...secede-2016-11

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

We went skiing in Colorado about 10 years ago- staying with friends and also having a week in Steamboat. The resort was in such a mess- as the local authorities had just had a big blitz of all illegals in the region. Season started and they suddenyl realised they didn't have anyone to work at the lifts, the bars, the hôtels, the restaurants, the roads, etc - and they were wondering why - doh + doh + doh doh.

Prepared to pay higher wages is just one side of the story- will the customers (be they shoppers, or tourists.... ) be prepared to pay the extra price that will be passed on to them?

This on a Forum where vast numbers on very high Swiss salaries go shopping in France or Germany? (yes, moi aussi - apart from the Swiss high wage ).
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Now some people in California (Louis Marinelli, an outspoken political activist) want the state to break away from the union,

http://uk.businessinsider.com/calexi...secede-2016-11

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-55 electoral votes for the dems
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I could never really understand the term "populist" when democracy is based on the population voting. It strikes me as an elitist terminology for the rest of the unwashed masses.
Funny. That's exactly how I see you.

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if one could make a wordcloud of the 515 responses to this post, and perhaps all the millions of tweets which have gone around over the last 2 years AND just store them as a souvenir for Mr. Trump and his future generations.
I can't wait for popular culture to get into this. It lasts longer than word clouds too...

"Adolf has only got one ball"

"He's a drug store truck drivin man
He's the head of the Ku Klux Klan
When summer rolls around
He'll be lucky if he's not in town"

"And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
Where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after Committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly Looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father Rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me."

Wonder how many law suits Don will dish out when that all starts...
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Donald says he will deport 11 million illegal immigrants. Obama has deported nearly 2 million criminals already, currently 400'000 each year,
So, he's going to immediately blow billions on deporting 2-3 million illegal immigrants, tying up how many hours of police time? Building how many new concentration ca...sorry! detention facilities? Paying for how many flights? Then there's court costs, because there will have to be some due legal process involved. Then there's getting their country of origin to repatriate them? etc...etc...etc....

Perfect time for al Qaeda to plan another hit
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

what sort of person gets drunk on a sunday night?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Drunk on what? Not me.

I just get sick of the narrow political perspectives of your average American, but that's because I come from a multi-party system. You guys are so stuck in left and right, that some really can't see what's happened here.

You had Bernie - independent - left of centre - populist

And Donald - aligned with the Republicans but not really one of them - centre? right? who knows! - populist

For every Republican who couldn't bring themselves to vote Trump, I bet there was a Democrat who felt the same way about Hillary.

This was a revolt via the ballot box. This was people from all backgrounds and classes sticking two fingers up at the 'man'. This was a vote to shake down the system. History has shown us time and time again what comes next after this kind of event. The fact that it comes straight on the heels of Brexit, and preceeds similar votes in other major countries, only emphasises the lessons of history in the matter.

If people are angry, they have every right to be, or isn't it a free country anymore? If people are wary or scared of what comes next, they have every right to be. It's the people who are complacent that I'm worried about.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Donald Trump named Reince Priebus as his White House chief of staff, rewarding a loyalist to his party and its long-serving chairman by making him his top aide in the Oval Office.

Trump, however, also named Steve Bannon, the head of his campaign and of the far-right website Breitbart, as his “chief strategist and senior counselor”.

The statement that announced Trump’s decision named Bannon first, despite the vague title of his role. It said that Bannon and Priebus would work as “equal partners”.

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So Trump's first political act is to make the Republican Party Chairman his chief of staff, seems draining the swamp will take a little longer.

He is a sensible political choice but a decision contrary to Trump's rhetoric.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Just for the record for one or two American members who may not know, care or realise, the screen shot below is ever so slightly inaccurate.

Farage is not an elected MP. He lost his seat in May 2015.
He isn't the leader of the opposition. The party he temporarily leads has one MP in a house of 650.
At the time of the Brexit referendum, he was not an elected MP, and was not seen as being part of the mainstream Leave campaigns.

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So, he's going to immediately blow billions on deporting 2-3 million illegal immigrants, tying up how many hours of police time? Building how many new concentration ca...sorry! detention facilities? Paying for how many flights? Then there's court costs, because there will have to be some due legal process involved. Then there's getting their country of origin to repatriate them? etc...etc...etc....

Perfect time for al Qaeda to plan another hit
As was posted Obama deported ca. 400,000 immigrants per year, I doubt Trump can increase this number unless he recruits a lot of extra people.

For example, if every immigrant deportation requires two people for two days then you would need twenty extra people a year to deport an extra 1,000 immigrants per year.
Then to double Obama's deport rate you would need eight thousand extra people.

Of course illegal immigrants are still entering the US so it becomes a Sisyphus task.
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Just for the record for one or two American members who may not know, care or realise, the screen shot below is ever so slightly inaccurate.

Farage is not an elected MP. He lost his seat in May 2015.
He isn't the leader of the opposition. The party he temporarily leads has one MP in a house of 650.
At the time of the Brexit referendum, he was not an elected MP, and was not seen as being part of the mainstream Leave campaigns.

Thank you FoxNews for the c**k up of the day
Some newspapers are claiming that May is facing push back from her Ministers due to her refusal to use Farage as a channel to Trump

Life is stranger than fiction
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The party he temporarily leads has one MP in a house of 650.
Still more effective than corbyn :P
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Some newspapers are claiming that May is facing push back from her Ministers due to her refusal to use Farage as a channel to Trump

Life is stranger than fiction
I'm not sure it's a joke or something, but anyway...
Why would UK need Farage as a "channel" to Trump?
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Old 14.11.2016, 09:07
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I'm not sure it's a joke or something, but anyway...
Why would UK need Farage as a "channel" to Trump?
Because at the moment, he and maybe Boris may be the few that understand Trump.
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Prepared to pay higher wages is just one side of the story- will the customers (be they shoppers, or tourists.... ) be prepared to pay the extra price that will be passed on to them?

This on a Forum where vast numbers on very high Swiss salaries go shopping in France or Germany? (yes, moi aussi - apart from the Swiss high wage ).
The US has a huge number of "working poor" - people who work 2-3-4 jobs but remain living in relative poverty - IE not increasing their net wealth. There is nothing wrong with entrepreneurial but needing to work 16-18hrs a day just to make ends meet is not a sign of a developed country.

I have witnessed places in the US being overstaffed with under utilized staff. Busy times were 3-4 waitresses/bus-boys/servers just standing chatting - all of whom earning low wages and needing a second job.

If you want a high level of personal service - you're going to have to pay for it.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

You just have to love how now he keeps claiming he never said certain things even though there's footage of him saying it.

You moron, this is 2016. EVERYTHING you ever say is being recorded. And broadcasted to literally everyone with a connection to the internet. This ain't the 50s where no one could prove you said XYZ.

He's already an embarrassment. Well, he's always been.

Granted, I'm not sure what's better: him doing the things he said he would do (or at least consider doing them), or him backpaddling on them.

Assuming the latter will happen, once the narrow-minded masses realize this one is just a(nother) fluke and - shock oh shock - he, too, doesn't give a rat's ass about the average man's problems (surpriiiise), I could see how this may well lead to social strife of certain proportions. And to more anger, and more racism, and just more of everything that is bad.
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Thank you FoxNews for the c**k up of the day
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