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Old 15.11.2016, 12:50
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i think you misunderstand me. christians and atheist dont WANT to be allies, but they have to be. individually they would have lost the election.

like usa+russia vs nazi germany instead of usa vs russia vs germany
To be honest I can't begin to get my head around how Christianity functions in the US. Feedback from friends that have moved over there says that they are pretty much having to lie that they are big god-bothering church-goers or their kids are shunned and they are viewed with suspicion. That's not even in the tiny backwaters. They all live in various big cities around the country.

I can see how it undermines and rots the politics there, though.
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Old 15.11.2016, 12:57
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Well, no, its because you folks are wrong.
And you are right because...?

That would be a tough post for you wouldn't it?
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To be honest I can't begin to get my head around how Christianity functions in the US. Feedback from friends that have moved over there says that they are pretty much having to lie that they are big god-bothering church-goers or their kids are shunned and they are viewed with suspicion. That's not even in the tiny backwaters. They all live in various big cities around the country.

I can see how it undermines and rots the politics there, though.
its terrible. hope we can also agree that other parts of the world (if not the vast majority) are more terrible.
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Old 15.11.2016, 12:59
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you dont have to tell me that. id love to eradicate even the memory of religion (hyperbole~!!1).

people see the yuge influence islam has gotten on our society in just 2 decades. its for the worse. like christianity on steroids. and for what? why is the left so positive about it? why is criticism equal to being a nazi?

back in the day, laughing at the banana god youtube clip was all we had to deal with. nowadays you get smeared out on the road because your existence is an offence to mo.

that is why christians and atheists are now allies to a certain extend.
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i think you misunderstand me. christians and atheist dont WANT to be allies, but they have to be. individually they would have lost the election.

like usa+russia vs nazi germany instead of usa vs russia vs germany
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what sort of person gets drunk on a tuesday morning?
fixed that for you!

can you please explain?
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:03
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That's great. One thing I don't expect to see from this administration is an imperialistic approach to education, as some of you seem to propagate. What I expect to happen is the devolution of choices to the state level, community level, and even to individual levels. Its a better reflection of the demographics of the country, and in line with concepts of liberty.
But that approach will not produce students suitable for business because their education will not have been based on a solid common foundation.
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:03
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And you are right because...?

That would be a tough post for you wouldn't it?
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:05
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Well, as they try to impose a belief system or lack of one on the US, which they have little to do with, why not have the sentiment of imposing it on Iran or Saudi Arabia? I posit its due to lack of courage.
Spoon.

Religion cannot be taught in US public schools. Pupils can be taught about religion, however. The Bible (no clue about other religuous texts as I ran out of research steam) can only be studied in terms of its literary, historical or historical/social merit. Discussing, or asking about, pupils' (or educator's) relegious beliefs is not allowed.

In other words, RE is banned in US public school. That's why the oddsquad have to shoehorn it in to pseudo-"science" lessons.
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Actually, that you are so willing to judge these courses by their titles alone shows your own bias. I could probably make a good stab at producing a thought provoking course on critical thinking, rationality, and sociology starting from any of those course titles. Some people benefit from having their presumptions challenged, or would you disagree with that?
Precisely!
College and University courses are as much about developing critical thinking as anything else, unless they're vocational courses.

Honestly, I bet many of us here aren't currently in professions that they believed their educational studies would lead them to. I studied, trained and worked as a photographer / lab technician, but spent the last decade working in travel, and largely because it was a passion that always lingered at the back of my mind. Many of us are the same that way.

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I've taken plenty of ridiculous courses for the hell of it. But to somehow imply that teaching a course on heritage and religion dilutes a science course is somewhat ridiculous and reflects an anti-culture and anti-religious bias.
Who implied that? Not Sandgrounder!

You can't teach the history of science without also teaching the religious and sociological frameworks that were prevalent at the time. It actually enriches the understanding of how science evolved. Case in point...One of the best TV series ever broadcast, Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos'.
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:06
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fixed that for you!

can you please explain?
oh look, its the little one with the sensitive little flower soul

but yes, i have been drunk for the past few days of the nonstop salty libtard tears streaming through my screen.



cant stop watching
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Awww, poor victims of Phos' oppression. Alright, then, go on and keep on with your insults of the US.

I'll get to work and check back in later.
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:13
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Awww, poor victims of Phos' oppression. Alright, then, go on and keep on with your insults of the US.

I'll get to work and check back in later.
That's going to be like having an opportunity to chat without having a shrieking toddler clammering to be heard.


EDIT - maybe this tipped the balance...

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And you are right because...?

That would be a tough post for you wouldn't it?

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Old 15.11.2016, 13:16
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Well, as they try to impose a belief system or lack of one on the US, which they have little to do with, why not have the sentiment of imposing it on Iran or Saudi Arabia? I posit its due to lack of courage.
But Iran and Saudi Arabia already have a belief system and inconveniently worship the exact same God as the Christians so there are many common beliefs.
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You really don't know what's been happening in the US educational system, do you?

Publically funded schools in the US that are allowed to teach creationism as an alternative to evolution
It's not just the US sadly.
I know a lovely South African family who've been allowed to home school their kids because they don't want their creationist views tainted by outside influence, even though the mother is poorly educated herself. She's an absolutely lovely woman, but all she teaches her kids is art and creationism. No science, geography, literature, history, etc...

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Religion should be taught in schools in the same way kids learn about ancient and modern history. Teach it in a cultural way and encourage discussion. Some kids are free to believe in what they want due to cultural or parental influences, other kids are free to non-believe.

You realise there are over **3000 religions, don't you? So there is more than enough material for schools to get through.
I've long believed that a lot of America's ills come from religion not being taught in schools.

There isn't a person who went to my school who doesn't fondly remember Peter Pius Patrick Mather. RE teacher, devout Christian, part-time rugby coach, and fascinated by World religions. He single handly created more agnostics and atheists than anyone I've ever known!
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Whilst we're doing limericks, this one tickled me...

The MEP Nigel Farage
Paid court to the new grand fromage,
Presenting to Trump
His pale English rump
For transcontinental frottage.

https://twitmericks.com
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My eyes... my eyes...!
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I'm fairly sure that it's your unfounded personal sense of smug superiority and condescension that drives you. But please do prove me wrong.
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Well, no, its because you folks are wrong. But go ahead with your fantasies and nightmares about Trump and the US. They are funny.
You're not doing a very good job of proving me wrong.

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At first, I thought Phos was being ironic, but then I remembered that he is American, and not the sharpest tool in the shed, at that. The IRON-O-METER says...
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Old 15.11.2016, 13:52
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I bet many of us here aren't currently in professions that they believed their educational studies would lead them to.
At age 10, I decided to become an engineer. 47 years later I still am.

The only thing I ever studied that was totally useless was Spanish (the first foreign language I studied, then I went to France for a year).

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You're one of the lucky ones Tom. At 10, I wanted to be an architect, then I discovered boys and wanted to be the physio for Tottenham Hotspur

Most useless skill I learned was making stained glass windows, but in hindsight, I do wish I'd studied to be an architect after all.
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Honestly, I bet many of us here aren't currently in professions that they believed their educational studies would lead them to.
I am. Although I had a 6 year gap between studying English language and lit and teaching it.
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a racist and sexist he was called
but the many leftists bawled
when he took by storm
the great reform
to make america great and walled
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