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Pence carries scary looking baggage, although Don. Jr. described a presidency where Trump sits like a chancellor, and Pence takes actions like a president. Pence may already wield a lot of influence.

How much do we know about Trump's management skills? His style seems to be to pit people in competition, and then deliberates a decision based on their performance. One is eliminated, and another advances (the Apprentice). I like the idea of judging Washington by its performance, though not sure how it applies here.
I suspect that one of the problems for Trump will be that he won't have a balance sheet to make decisions with. I'm not sure if he is aware of just how different running a country is in comparison to running an empire.
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Old 16.11.2016, 19:10
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think the problem for Trump was that he wasn't anticipating having to spend more than a couple of hours per week in the White House to oversee things

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Trump has great potential. I think he's capable of succeeding tremendously. Yet like anybody else, he's capable of failing spectacularly and miserably. Peter principle, he may have arisen to his level of incompetence. We can only hope he does well for everybody's sake.
He is already faltering and confused ! Not a good start !
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Old 16.11.2016, 19:21
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He is already faltering and confused ! Not a good start !
Well, to be fair, he starts on Jan. 20th.

What they call "disarray" in the press, may be just the kind of chaos Trump thrives on around him. I wasn't exactly expecting him to turn the White House into a Zen Meditation temple.

Trump has proven to be like Madonna of Washington politics. After all the times critics have written him off, he's still performing.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A slightly amusing helpful link for those thinking of emigrating away from Trumpland,

http://trumpingship.com/
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Old 16.11.2016, 21:12
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Regardless of how Trump performs, so long as he gets rid of some hindering laws out of the way, I expect the US to be a very bold and dynamic place to live in within a year or two. I plan to set up a part time crib there because of it.

It's gonna be great.
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Regardless of how Trump performs, so long as he gets rid of some hindering laws out of the way, I expect the US to be a very bold and dynamic place to live in within a year or two. I plan to set up a part time crib there because of it.

It's gonna be great.
If he just implements these changes via EO then they can be revoked easily enough once he's gone. If he plans to amend the constitution then he'll need a 2nd term. I don't see that happening.
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Old 16.11.2016, 21:44
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If he just implements these changes via EO then they can be revoked easily enough once he's gone. If he plans to amend the constitution then he'll need a 2nd term. I don't see that happening.
If he were to rely solely on executive orders, I would take it as a negative sign of failure. I would be disappointed, and it all would be for nothing.

I don't think he needs two terms with a republican house and senate. What I would really like to see from him are changes at the legislative and constitutional level. He needs to uphold due process with all the checks and balances, and thereby making systemic changes in the process. And after supreme court appointments, it would cement his legacy beyond his term.

The tricky part here is how to get the republicans to vote for swamp draining measures that curtail their own personal interests. If they fail at all this, we may see a swing back to a worse liberal regime.

One of the things I have wanted out of this throughout the election was the curtailing of presidential executive power foregoing checks and balances. Its just way too much power to invest in one person. I'd like to see a functioning due process with appropriate checks and balances.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Meanwhile, new Trump transition chairman Mike Pence, who is loathed on EF because he may or may not have some funny ideas about what happened circa 6,000 - 6 billion years ago, is "removing any lobbyists" from the transition mix.

""This is to ensure President-elect Trump's commitment to ban lobbyist involvement is being upheld at all levels of the transition," the aide said.""

But please, let's continue to pillor the guy for his irrelevant views on the far-distant past, as opposed to evaluating him based on what he does now.
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Old 16.11.2016, 22:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Good news is instead of WW3 we will more likely see (or hear about) a Putin/Trump Bunga-Bunga Party.




I miss those parties. I wish Berlusconi was still in. Would have made for more interesting headlines.
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Old 17.11.2016, 00:42
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Human identifiers in nature?

The bird 'that looks remarkably like Donald Trump' is now a viral sensation
http://www.independent.ie/world-news...-35220396.html
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And the Dems blocking it because of Pence.

Trump made a smart choice selecting Pence, cheap insurance against impeachment or assassination.

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They'd just take out Pence first to unnerve him. Which reminds me, I must re-read 'American Tabloid' and 'The Cold Six Thousand'.

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I plan to set up a part time crib there because of it.

It's gonna be great.
Crib?!!! How old are you? I had you at 58-70 before that remark.
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Trump has proven to be like Madonna of Washington politics.
What, he's promissed BJs to HRC voters?

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Regardless of how Trump performs, so long as he gets rid of some hindering laws out of the way, I expect the US to be a very bold and dynamic place to live in within a year or two. I plan to set up a part time crib there because of it.

It's gonna be great.
Phos, take off those rose-tinted spectacles. You're telling yourself lies. It isn't going to be great, it's going to be a bloody mess, and no amount of talking yourself into some utopian dream is going to help.
He's going to put a stop to Cop21, so climate change is going to accelerate.
He's going to use his contacts to enrich himself and his family, nothing else.
He is going to do his utmost to unravel any and all of the good, decent things Obama has done (healthcare, education, immigration).
In fact, the only words that have come out of his mouth over the last six months which made any sense, were "What have you got to lose?".
And in answer to his rhetorical question, everything.
Economic stability, the capacity to control the damaging effect we are having on the environment, relative world peace ... Need I go on?
You are living in a fantasy world, in which you think Trump is going to make everything 'better'. He won't.
His rhetoric is nastily similar to what was coming out of Germany in the 1930's.
This won't end well.
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What, he's promissed BJs to HRC voters?

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promised?








Im not correcting your typo
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Human identifiers in nature?

The bird 'that looks remarkably like Donald Trump' is now a viral sensation
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promised?
Well, I didn't wanna correct the remark in article but it subconsciously reads as:

“But after Trump was elected President of America, I start seeing more pictures of him and I think the p(h)easant looks a little bit like him.”

(No offense to hardworking peasants).

I'm not correcting my typo.
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If we manage to survive the upcoming times, we'll have a lot to laugh about. And if we don't at least we died laughing.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump won't last through the presidency before he gives up the ghost. 70 years old, no experience whatsoever, and already looks like he's aged 10 years since the election.

He's going to hate that job.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Oh, its going to be great (caveat: "for some"), and it's going to be BOLD. The election shows that the spaghetti noodles lost. I expect to see a surge in new inspiration, ideas, entrepreneurship and extrapeneurship.

Trump has two years to deliver substantial results. If he doesn't, he may lose one or both house of congress. If the other side wins again, they will drag the US back down like a disease.
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Oh, its going to be great (caveat: "for some"), and it's going to be BOLD. The election shows that the spaghetti noodles lost. I expect to see a surge in new inspiration, ideas, entrepreneurship and extrapeneurship.

Trump has two years to deliver substantial results. If he doesn't, he may lose one or both house of congress. If the other side wins again, they will drag the US back down like a disease.
If he does manage to implement change then they will be great for some - but this is always so, there is nothing unique to Trump's election in this. Bold, in the sense of "anything other than understated", I'll give you that.

His election has shaken the status quo, we have yet to see if they are broken, or just stirred and regrouped.

It is a mistake to see him as a Messiah. For the moment he has tapped into a large body of discontent by asserting that he a new Messiah. Assertion is the currency of elections, prosperity is the currency of an economy.

If he manages to implement even minor positive change in only half of the domains he has promised to completely revitalise by the time the half term comes up he will be doing much better than par for the course.

Even if it turns out that he isn't a racist, misogynist, or Washington insider - just not being those things does not mean that he will be a good president.

But go on with your cheerleading, it's kind of entertaining.
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