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If he does manage to implement change then they will be great for some - but this is always so, there is nothing unique to Trump's election in this. Bold, in the sense of "anything other than understated", I'll give you that.

His election has shaken the status quo, we have yet to see if they are broken, or just stirred and regrouped.

It is a mistake to see him as a Messiah. For the moment he has tapped into a large body of discontent by asserting that he a new Messiah. Assertion is the currency of elections, prosperity is the currency of an economy.

If he manages to implement even minor positive change in only half of the domains he has promised to completely revitalise by the time the half term comes up he will be doing much better than par for the course.

Even if it turns out that he isn't a racist, misogynist, or Washington insider - just not being those things does not mean that he will be a good president.

But go on with your cheerleading, it's kind of entertaining.
No, I don't think we see the same thing here. It's not really about Trump, its about the Americans. Its performance is based on its level of inspiration. It's the other side of the political spectrum that is dependent on a leader to tell it what to do.

Trump has done most of his work already, by proving them wrong.
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Old 17.11.2016, 14:34
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting piece on mistakes of the Hillary campaign.

Basically it says they assumed they trusted their own punditry too much and deluded themeselves into thinking they could win the elction while completely ignoring large chunks of the population.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-democ...100053074.html

(and yet they accuse Trump of being the divisive candidate)
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

With the election result and the subsequent protests, this seems unintentionally relevant again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZxkErDC16A

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

T'will still be interesting to see the results of the Electoral College in December.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump supporters call to boycott Pepsi over comments the CEO never made!

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Article also mentions people burning their New Balance shoes as a result of a fake news story.
At least stupid people were burning their own property rather than the local mall!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Christie's been pushed aside (what a sad loss for humanity), Bannon is Aide Supreme (what a hideous excuse for a human being - do check out some of Breitbart's more choice headlines).

J. Kushner is waiting for security clearance, and so basically all we have is a bunch of crooks and freaks to help the Great Orange Leader to take the world forward.

Be afraid, be very afraid, people.

P.S. Who wrote that the new line-up looks like all the bad-guys from Batman? Too true for comfort ...
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Christie's been pushed aside (what a sad loss for humanity), Bannon is Aide Supreme (what a hideous excuse for a human being - do check out some of Breitbart's more choice headlines).

J. Kushner is waiting for security clearance, and so basically all we have is a bunch of crooks and freaks to help the Great Orange Leader to take the world forward.

Be afraid, be very afraid, people.

P.S. Who wrote that the new line-up looks like all the bad-guys from Batman? Too true for comfort ...
You know, after some thought, I think I would like to encourage that thought - Be afraid, be very afraid.

Donald Trump was elected to be the President of the US. His platform was one of putting American interests first. He wasn't elected to be the President of the World. So for anyone who's interests are contrary to the US, then one should be wary of Trump, and he would b a terrible president if he did his job as he said he would.

I was just watching Obama in Berlin, and it occurs to me he has an awful lot of focus outside of the US. I fear the day Donald Trump would be seduced into thinking in terms of his personal World Power, and forget that his primary responsibility is to the US. I don't really think a person can serve two masters sufficiently well. And if Donald Trump were to ever get inspired into being a world wide leader, I would think he would in many cases forego US interests as Obama has.

So in this light, I find the animosity and vehemence towards Trump from people outside of the US useful. We should care less about it inside the US. Just make sure you keep it up, especially if and when he aspires to use his office for other interests other than the US. I'm not interested in empire, just interested in things in the US running correctly.
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You know, after some thought, I think I would like to encourage that thought - Be afraid, be very afraid.

Donald Trump was elected to be the President of the US. His platform was one of putting American interests first. He wasn't elected to be the President of the World. So for anyone who's interests are contrary to the US, then one should be wary of Trump, and he would b a terrible president if he did his job as he said he would.

I was just watching Obama in Berlin, and it occurs to me he has an awful lot of focus outside of the US. I fear the day Donald Trump would be seduced into thinking in terms of his personal World Power, and forget that his primary responsibility is to the US. I don't really think a person can serve two masters sufficiently well. And if Donald Trump were to ever get inspired into being a world wide leader, I would think he would in many cases forego US interests as Obama has.

So in this light, I find the animosity and vehemence towards Trump from people outside of the US useful. We should care less about it inside the US. Just make sure you keep it up, especially if and when he aspires to use his office for other interests other than the US. I'm not interested in empire, just interested in things in the US running correctly.
I agree, the best thing for the world would be that Trump stays in US and concentrates on US.

Sadly on the first day after the vote he phoned a number of world leaders but I am sure he can recover from this failure
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You know, after some thought, I think I would like to encourage that thought - Be afraid, be very afraid.

Donald Trump was elected to be the President of the US. His platform was one of putting American interests first. He wasn't elected to be the President of the World. So for anyone who's interests are contrary to the US, then one should be wary of Trump, and he would b a terrible president if he did his job as he said he would.

I was just watching Obama in Berlin, and it occurs to me he has an awful lot of focus outside of the US. I fear the day Donald Trump would be seduced into thinking in terms of his personal World Power, and forget that his primary responsibility is to the US. I don't really think a person can serve two masters sufficiently well. And if Donald Trump were to ever get inspired into being a world wide leader, I would think he would in many cases forego US interests as Obama has.

So in this light, I find the animosity and vehemence towards Trump from people outside of the US useful. We should care less about it inside the US. Just make sure you keep it up, especially if and when he aspires to use his office for other interests other than the US. I'm not interested in empire, just interested in things in the US running correctly.
Unfortunately it sounds like you are as naive as Trump. You both seem to believe that America can be Made Great Again in isolation from the rest of the world. Good luck with that. I don't see the new Hermit Kingdom of the USA going very far at all.
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Unfortunately it sounds like you are as naive as Trump. You both seem to believe that America can be Made Great Again in isolation from the rest of the world. Good luck with that. I don't see the new Hermit Kingdom of the USA going very far at all.
The man sure has accomplished quite a lot in his life, so would be glad to be afflicted with the same "naivety" (for now, until he messes up).

It'll rock. Good luck to the rest.
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I agree, the best thing for the world would be that Trump stays in US and concentrates on US.

Sadly on the first day after the vote he phoned a number of world leaders but I am sure he can recover from this failure
I heard May had trouble trying to call him, but couldn't, probably because he was fooling around with Nigel.
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Be afraid, be very afraid, people.
Replace your tinfoil hat, the current one is clearly not working as well as it should.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Skipping Election jargon, it is suffice to say that he has every chance of being as good a president as the alternative, albeit not to everyones taste (but possibly with a higher degree of trust/fewer foreign policy gaffs). There are hard decisions to make. Personally, I agree with his objective to invest in infrastructure (Having lived there for a short while i could - outside of the eastern seaboard /cities - how much work is required).

He is a lose canon so really needs to work on that + this business of stating policy / personal feelings 'of the day' over twitter is ridiculous and unprofessional.
There is a divided nation and a nation with a truely unknown entity at the helm, i'd say give him a chance....it is such a short term.
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I heard May had trouble trying to call him, but couldn't, probably because he was fooling around with Nigel.
You are hearing those voices again? Maybe you need a stronger prescription
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37977433

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President-elect Donald Trump has announced he will give up his presidential salary of $400,000 (£319,500) and take just $1 a year.
Damm that man will do anything it takes to avoid taxes
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let's continue to pillor the guy for his irrelevant views on the far-distant past, as opposed to evaluating him based on what he does now.
Let's evaluate Pence for what he does now/in the recent past then.

As a congressman, he opposed federal funding that would support treatment for people suffering from HIV and AIDS, unless the government simultaneously invested in programs to discourage people from engaging in same-sex relationships.

When he was Governor of Indiana, he signed the most restrictive anti-abortion legislation in the USA, banning abortion even in cases where the fetus has genetic abnormalities (such as Down syndrome). Furthermore, the law he signed would hold doctors legally liable if they had knowingly performed the procedures. Luckily, a federal judge blocked this from going into effect following a "landmark" Supreme Court decision on abortion.

In 2015, Pence promoted “religious freedom” laws that would have protected businesses who wanted to refuse service to LGBT people if they cited religious objections.

He is skeptical of climate change and has publicly called it a hoax.

He led the national fight to de-fund Planned Parenthood, trying to introduce federal measures to block patients from receiving care at PP. More appalling perhaps, he even tried to shut down the government over this issue.

So yes, vice president he may be, but he is a douche of vice-presidential caliber. I would not care for his beliefs, were it not for the fact that his actions directly threaten my health and my day-to-day life. Creationism is just the cherry on top of a s*it pie.
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The man sure has accomplished quite a lot in his life, so would be glad to be afflicted with the same "naivety" (for now, until he messes up).

It'll rock. Good luck to the rest.
Funny how all the trumpists played the "he's a twat but he's a better choice than Hillary, what an awful choice" card, in the beginning. Was it so difficult to admit that you really like (or in some cases - admire) this guy? Conformism? What was it then?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

the cronies he's picking are starting to look more sinister every day!
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I agree, the best thing for the world would be that Trump stays in US and concentrates on US.

Sadly on the first day after the vote he phoned a number of world leaders but I am sure he can recover from this failure
Putin was one of the first world leaders to call Trump. And now Putin is putting up billboards around Russia trying to ride Trumps coat-tails Let's see where this bromance leads

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Putin was one of the first world leaders to call Trump. And now Putin is putting up billboards around Russia trying to ride Trumps coat-tails Let's see where this bromance leads
Apparently not quite true, it wasn't Putin, and it wasn't Russia:

http://www.snopes.com/russian-billbo...ump-and-putin/
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